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the plan is hoppin masters almost surely

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this clearly maybe something there

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you think you know the less you really

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because we know the

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all right higher side shadows we know

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the world is largely run by unseen hands

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in a vast web of international

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corporations banking oligarchs secret

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societies think tanks bloodlines

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religions disinformation agents and

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alphabet agencies and it's not an easy

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task to deconstruct it as soon as we

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examine the power and influence of one

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far-reaching Network we're exposed to

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another with Dominion over a different

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sector of societal control and the

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pattern repeats until our dying day yes

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there are many hands in the cookie jar

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and today we're going to look at some

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threads on this spider's web that

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haven't been brought to light as much as

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others and I think you'll be surprised

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more than once

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our guest today is a great documentary

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maker and all-around master of

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multimedia who I've been wanting to get

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on THC for quite some time

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his name is Josh Reeves and he's put

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together some really great films that

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avoid rehashing the same conspiracy 101

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bullet points and covers some well

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sourced information I really don't hear

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anywhere else from his first with 9/11

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new world rising to my personal favorite

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the lost secrets of ancient America and

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his examination of the rock wall and

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Rockwall Texas Josh never fails to

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impress and now his latest film the

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spellcasters Hollywood Scientology the

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CIA and the truth movement dives into

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some of the previously mentioned unseen

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power adds new pieces to the

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ever-expanding power pyramid puzzle and

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exposes some leading truthers as

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connected agents that might be hard for

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some people to hear but suck it up and

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put on the big boy pants because it's

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happening people Josh my man welcome to

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the higher side well thank you so much

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Greg it's a great honor for me to be

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here yeah man long time coming thanks

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for doing it you've got several films

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that would make great topics for a show

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and maybe we can start with a little bit

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about your path through some of this

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research because elements of older films

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definitely helped you make some of the

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most important connections in the

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spellcasters right well absolutely it's

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one of those things I talk about a lot

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where and I'm sure you found this in

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your own work your own research but

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sometimes the truth finds us in the

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oddest of places you know we're looking

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at certain topics and not really

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thinking about others and then

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inadvertently those other topics seem to

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rear their head in places again where

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you're not really looking for it so same

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thing as you mentioned with my

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all secrets of Asian America work you

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know in the rockwool so I wouldn't have

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thought because I did those secret right

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Volume one in two films

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previously to doing the lawsuits of

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ancient America Volume one and I kind of

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figured when I was going to that topic I

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was like ah you know it's kind of

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relieved for a minute to just kind of

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step away do something different and I

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never dreamed that those elements that I

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exposed in the secret Volume one with

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groups like the council for national

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policy would have reared its ugly head

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again in that work and ensured if it did

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because one of the people that's been a

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very complicit in covering up this rock

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wall thing that you mentioned was a guy

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who was the longest sitting congressman

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in US history and he wanted up being a

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member of this group and has done a lot

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of work towards covering up he's a

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freemason as well they're in Rockwall so

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again you just never know where these

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are going to take you with my new film

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the spellcasters I had originally

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intended for it to only be a real kind

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of honest investigation into who truly

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controls Hollywood I never dreamed that

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it would have taken me through the

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routes that it did especially in terms

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of the connections to Scientology the

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CIA and then of course as you mentioned

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with various other truth of people and

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whatnot that seem to be involved in this

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and I'd come across a little just little

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tidbits of this stuff while working on

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the secret Volume one in 2009 and then

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volume 2 in 2011 but I never quite knew

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how it fit and so that's really where

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this film brings is it's more than just

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about you know an expose on Hollywood it

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really gets into all the elements of

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mind control and how all these really

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what boils down to information warfare

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against the people are being uh executed

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against it so it's really a wide-ranging

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film that may seem like it's about one

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topic but the more you watch it you seem

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to find out that it's connected to all

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these other various things and of course

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expand more on that and get a lot more

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evolution this kind of research is

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always a process new threads come out

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and connect to places we didn't expect

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and so just to give people a little

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context if they're not familiar with

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your work you did the secret right

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series which looks at you know network

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of power on kind of the right side of

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the American two-party system and then

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you did the lost secrets of ancient

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America and just so people understand

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this rock wall in Rockwall Texas

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it emits a type of frequency right there

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trying to tell us that it's natural but

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you've looked at it and there are

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qualities to it that clearly aren't

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right I mean it's a pretty impressive

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thing as far as ancient American secrets

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and I rarely hear anyone mention this

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thing well it's yeah but it you know

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it's more than just like my work in my

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opinion or anything that it's you know a

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not a natural formation let's just get

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that clear I don't want people thinking

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that I'm just creating some conspiracy

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to say that this thing is not natural

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when all the experts are Philly people

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that came before me who have done expert

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analysis and analysis on the materials

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and whatnot that's really what it boils

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down to and you know there's been a few

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attempted whitewashes of this

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information but the thing about that

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they never bring to the table is they

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never actually show what the materials

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are made up of and it's made up of a lot

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of very different very rare crystals and

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minerals that have been sourced from

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various locations and then brought

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together to create these composite

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Zarkon garnet zircon and garnet are the

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these stones and these minerals that are

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found in stones do not naturally occur

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anywhere near within hundreds of

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hundreds of miles of where the rock wall

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is located that's the number-one thing

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there is no naturally occurring any

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geologists that knows the area in takes

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a look at the area will tell you that

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there actually is no naturally occurring

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rock in this area whatsoever so anything

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found there would be an anomaly and

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like the Smithsonian and the scientific

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community when they've tried to downplay

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it as a natural formation they sort of

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whisper the caveat they say well yes

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it's a natural formation we never found

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another one like anywhere else on earth

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up next I mean they try to move away

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from that and that's really the key

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they've never found another one like it

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yet they know for a fact that it's a

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natural formation but being made up of

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zircon garnet tourmaline it's even got

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some very rare earth metals in it the

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kicker for me was Niall beum Khan

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now if people look up niobium niobium is

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a material that we didn't even know

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can only be extracted from another

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element called columbite so in order to

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to have columbite you extract it from

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first now we use niobium in the modern

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day to create jet engines rocket engines

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we use it to reinforce pipelines it's

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because you can essentially pass a lot

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of electrical current through it without

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getting an overabundance of heat it also

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contains tourmaline tourmaline rule that

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and the crystal will never shatter this

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is another element of this plus it has

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between the stones itself it has what

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has been called through the analysis a

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geopolymer mortar substance it's a

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mortar substance that was created from

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three different types of quartz crystals

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that were brought together mixed

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together and then put between these

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stones that when they hit the air they

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actually expand and solidify once it

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hits the air and you mentioned the Freda

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frequency response of this when there

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were archeological digs conducted on the

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late 1990s they discovered that when

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they had their digging machines on top

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of where the wall was the low frequency

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oscillations from the engine of these

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machines caused the entire wall to shake

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and vibrate and start to produce an

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electrical current and there are metal

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rings that have been found embedded in

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the wall that look almost like our power

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outlets modern power outlets in the

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house that you have plug something into

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and these rings which I've held in my

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hand are smelted from copper aluminum

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and tin and now there's never been any

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commercially found 10 deposits anywhere

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in the world outside of Russia

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metallic elements and the mineral

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elements that make up this wall not to

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mention they're a lot of course there

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are alignments with the solstices of the

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equinoxes is really really one of the

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main things we have but what's

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interesting is the fact that this thing

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whatever it was doubled as a sea wall

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because when you start to dig down

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certain areas of it there was shark's

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teeth found embedded into the wall there

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was fresh there was sand dollars it

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should have been you know by what they

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tell us thousands maybe millions and

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thousands millions of years old that

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when you crack them open had fresh meat

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inside of it hmm and the main kicker of

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it is is that the soil analysis you can

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actually see where if you look at

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satellite images you can see where this

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blue shale a lot of the wall to get to

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where it is you have to dig down really

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really deep and you have to pull this

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blue shale because according to the soil

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analysis of the area the soil is really

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really tricky and very different right

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around the area where the rock wall is

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that it is anywhere else and when people

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are trying to put down foundations on

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houses they have to go all the way down

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to the bedrock in order to be able to

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put stilt foundations down because of

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the soil and the reason that is is

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because somewhere around twelve thousand

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seven hundred years ago right in line

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with when we know there were a worldwide

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great flood event the soil analysis

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shows beyond any shadow of a doubt that

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this rock wall was covered in a

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catastrophic event that happened

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somewhere in the Gulf of Mexico

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somewhere in the neighborhood of

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thirteen thousand years ago and when you

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start to look at other evidence and

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whatnot that's what led me to this I I

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didn't really know there was anything

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else around the United States I knew

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about the rock wall when I was starting

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to really try to make the case that it

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wasn't a natural formation I said well

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it was any truth to this then there has

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to be other examples of this and other

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things around you know the United States

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that would match up with it so I was

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very shocked to start finding stuff

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because I started hearing with door

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mounds and somebody's like a different

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mound sites found around rock wall to

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which I had never heard and then once

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you start finding out that all these

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ancient sites around America and indeed

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around the world all share the same

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equinox and solstice alignments that's

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when I started figuring out that you

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know this was not a coincidence and then

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the stories from the late 1800s Early

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1900s from the rock wall newspaper where

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multiple giant skeletons were found

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around the area and then I started

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trying wait a minute and I didn't even

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notice I had really no idea that there

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had been other ancient sites other mound

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sites found all across America

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specifically in the Ohio Valley where

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I've traveled where it's just

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crazy if you ever get a chance to go

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there and there again large amounts of

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giant skeletons found sites with the

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equinox and solstice alignment and

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that's really what led me to all that

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work in the law suits of ancient America

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Volume one and going back and actually

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showing people look you know this is the

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possibility of who these people could

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have been especially when you combine

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the fact of these various artifacts that

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are being found in the in the dates

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always going back and that's one of the

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things that the main reason why they've

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tried to downplay the rock wall keep it

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from coming out is because once you

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start getting into the timeline of how

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old this thing is it turns everything

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we've been told about there being

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intelligent people on this planet way up

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because you start looking at you know

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somewhere in the neighborhood of four

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hundred thirty two thousand years old is

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what we're looking at as far as this

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rock wall Wow yeah man it definitely

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moves the needle back quite a bit and

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you know as you laid out they obviously

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somebody spent great effort into

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crafting this thing I mean what do you

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think the purpose of that was was it

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more than a seawall was it part of a

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larger structure at some point have you

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got any kind of speculation on on what

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that exotic combination of elements is

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capable of doing

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yeah well it's 20 miles in diameter this

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entire wall so it encompasses in the

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modern day pretty much the entire city

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of Rockwall now I always get these

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emails and before people start emailing

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me you can't go out and see any of the

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actual wall people I want to know where

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I can go see the wall it's buried you

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can there are places where you can see

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pieces of it that have been dug up but

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as far as what it was used for that's

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the thing people have to start looking

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at things and understanding that it's

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very difficult especially when people

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start looking at something that is

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perceived to be that old because they

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start looking at it from their own

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modern perspective you know we think of

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like we build a building with you know

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do this build it for one purpose but

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this thing had a variety of usages from

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and really all of what what it was used

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for I don't think we really know I mean

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for instance one of the things that's

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been found are these tunnels these

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underground tunnels that go down to the

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closest water source nearby

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and with some of the constructionist of

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us there's been a lot of speculation

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that at one point maybe it was used to

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actually hide from these giants there's

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been stories of some of these giants

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being cannibalistic

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one of the stories that came from

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Rockwall about the Giants was this

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underground cavern that was found that

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had this giant pot in it with human

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bones that had been cooked so high it

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you know appears with these underground

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tunnels that possibly there could have

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been people there hiding from

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giants utilizing these underground

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tunnels to go to get down to water but

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that seems to be something that was

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probably done much later that's the

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fascinating thing about the evidence is

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that the top layer of the wall is like a

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primitive form of concrete and as you

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dig down farther and farther the stones

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get bigger as you go down and no one's

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really no one's gone down the 400 feet

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down to the bedrock yet but as you

404
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continue to dig down the stones get

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bigger and bigger and you start to see

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that this top layer this top concrete

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layer was added it was added to these

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things at some point we don't know when

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later on so this thing probably took on

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a variety of usages throughout the years

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as we mentioned the evidence for

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producing energy is that possibly this

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thing could have been designed to

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produce enough energy to launch

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something it's very interesting that the

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exact location of where this rock wall

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is is at the exact same trajectory for

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the perfect entry and exit way into

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space now when we launch our space

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shuttles and stuff like that they

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actually have to have a specific

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trajectory and back in 1999 they were

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going to land the Space Shuttle I guess

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in Cape Canaveral or whatever there was

425
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bad weather and they couldn't do it so

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they had to bring in the Space Shuttle

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in this the second best place they could

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for that trajectory and long behold that

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was right of a rock wall and I actually

430
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saw it when it came in I mean it looked

431
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like look what you think a plane or

432
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something crashing would look like but

433
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just these huge multicolored streaks in

434
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the skies it was coming back in it

435
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didn't know until years later when I

436
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started looking into the rock wall that

437
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that's exactly why it had done that

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there's been I mean I've seen I've had

439
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all kinds of strange of it even before I

440
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knew about the rock wall right in the

441
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area where it is I had you know I've had

442
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multiple UFO sightings there as a

443
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youngster me

444
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seen time events there seems to be some

445
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sort of magnetic anomaly on the bridge

446
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of Interstate 30 near where part of this

447
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rock wall is buried in myself and a

448
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friend and several other people I've

449
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talked to have had missing time events

450
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where you cross the bridge it's one

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o'clock in the afternoon when you get

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across to the other end you look at your

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watch and you're going why is it five

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o'clock wow that literally happened to a

455
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friend of mine we're highschool that we

456
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didn't even know we think about this

457
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rock wall yet and we'd left to go to

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work and it was like 1 o'clock when we

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left and we stopped to get gas when we

460
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once across the bridge was doing like a

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5 or 10-minute trip and we started to

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get gas and we're looking we're like how

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did we how are we late to her like it's

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5 o'clock or like how is it 5 o'clock I

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mean it was it was it was really bizarre

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in another friend of ours once we told

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him this story he didn't ever wanted to

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admit it and he was like you know I

469
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haven't ever told anybody this he's like

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now you guys are mentioned I had exact

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same thing happened to me I didn't tell

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anybody because I didn't want people

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think I was crazy so that combined again

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with the materials that that's I can't

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stress enough how rare so many of these

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these materials that are found in the

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rock wall are like tourmaline

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specifically tourmaline in first often

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to be able to get it you have to extract

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it from court it appears naturally on

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quartz but in the rock wall stones it's

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not formed on any natural quartz it's

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just ground up into this matrix and

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there was a UH a oil geologist from

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major oil company who took a look at

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these materials and he said in his

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opinion based on on his you know

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scientific training knowledge that

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because of the materials this is just

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what's so fascinating about I mean it's

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not just the materials it's the

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engineering elements and aspects that

493
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went into this that predate us knowing

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any of the stuff like the buttressing it

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has a buttressing effect into it built

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into it to where you know it won't fall

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over and always very specific

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engineering feats especially the ability

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to take all the materials that it's made

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of and then mix them all together if you

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and I were to take all these same

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materials that are in the rock wall and

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mix them together their molecular

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structures would just all mix and bond

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together instantly for some reason from

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some process unknown to us today the

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molecular into

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molecular structures of these different

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minerals remain independent in situ

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within the rock wall stones they do not

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bond the specific oil geologists told me

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that is not possible his exact words

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work that is not possible in Earth's

514
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current gravity so the gravity on earth

515
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itself would have been completely

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different in order for the environment

517
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to even be able to do what is done in

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this wall it's it really is fascinating

519
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I don't think I've ever seen something

520
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have as much focus on it to be covered

521
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up as this and it's fascinating that the

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people who first deemed the thing to be

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unnatural or freemasons

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the guy started trying to dig water

525
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wells all these people around the area

526
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nobody had named the town yet everybody

527
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wanted to name it after themselves and

528
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Jonesville and Johnsonville and

529
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everybody starts trying to dig these

530
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water wells and when they start trying

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to dig these waterwheels they keep

532
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hitting rock and even back then they

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knew that there was no

534
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naturally-occurring rock there so they

535
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couldn't figure out what it was so one

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of the farmers eventually started

537
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digging this thing up and when they

538
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started digging up they started noticing

539
00:19:48,130 --> 00:19:45,740
wait a minute this is you know this is

540
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way too perfect so they brought in the

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Freemasons who had established the town

542
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and they came in and took a look at it

543
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and they were like well what do you

544
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thinking immediately upon looking at it

545
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it took them two seconds of glancing to

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see masonry work I mean they saw the

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stone work of their own people there so

548
00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:04,940
that's when they told these settlers

549
00:20:07,450 --> 00:20:06,290
look you know you none of you guys are

550
00:20:09,670 --> 00:20:07,460
going to get the name this after

551
00:20:12,580 --> 00:20:09,680
yourself because this right here proves

552
00:20:14,710 --> 00:20:12,590
there were people here before any of us

553
00:20:17,110 --> 00:20:14,720
so that's what they gave the town name

554
00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:17,120
rock wall after that to be neutral

555
00:20:20,950 --> 00:20:18,530
because that was really the only thing

556
00:20:23,740 --> 00:20:20,960
they could name it and you know

557
00:20:25,180 --> 00:20:23,750
obviously this is a little off from what

558
00:20:27,250 --> 00:20:25,190
we plan to talk about but it's all

559
00:20:28,900 --> 00:20:27,260
fascinating and one other question that

560
00:20:30,430 --> 00:20:28,910
has been coming to mind recently

561
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:30,440
whenever I'm talking to a guest who

562
00:20:35,190 --> 00:20:33,290
talks about celestial alignments of some

563
00:20:37,630 --> 00:20:35,200
of these structures that date back

564
00:20:41,170 --> 00:20:37,640
sometimes tens of thousands of years

565
00:20:43,630 --> 00:20:41,180
yeah isn't it strange that they're still

566
00:20:45,430 --> 00:20:43,640
aligned because with plate tectonics and

567
00:20:46,030 --> 00:20:45,440
the Earth's wobble and the fact that

568
00:20:48,430 --> 00:20:46,040
we're spin

569
00:20:51,130 --> 00:20:48,440
mean it you know thousands of miles and

570
00:20:53,590 --> 00:20:51,140
these these stars in the sky are you

571
00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:53,600
know millions of light-years away isn't

572
00:20:58,740 --> 00:20:56,450
something weird about the fact that

573
00:21:01,420 --> 00:20:58,750
they're still aligned in so many cases

574
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:01,430
well that's again I think that goes back

575
00:21:05,170 --> 00:21:03,650
to the engineering aspects that were put

576
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:05,180
into this I mean when I started going

577
00:21:08,230 --> 00:21:06,890
out to a lot of the sites and that's

578
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:08,240
what we do in the lawsuit to ancient

579
00:21:11,770 --> 00:21:09,890
America Volume one I go I traveled all

580
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:11,780
over the country to go to these ancient

581
00:21:16,150 --> 00:21:13,850
sites and again you know these things

582
00:21:18,340 --> 00:21:16,160
are still measured to this day you can

583
00:21:19,900 --> 00:21:18,350
literally go out and watch these

584
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:19,910
measurements and see them happen even

585
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:21,410
today I mean one of the strangest things

586
00:21:27,460 --> 00:21:23,450
to me that I discovered was at Chaco

587
00:21:29,590 --> 00:21:27,470
Canyon in New Mexico because what blew

588
00:21:31,750 --> 00:21:29,600
me away about that it is right exactly

589
00:21:33,430 --> 00:21:31,760
in line with your question here is what

590
00:21:35,350 --> 00:21:33,440
these things change over time well what

591
00:21:37,990 --> 00:21:35,360
what even blew me away about that place

592
00:21:39,450 --> 00:21:38,000
was that a lot of these have as you

593
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:39,460
mentioned a lot of all these sites have

594
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:41,810
solar alignments and there are other

595
00:21:47,110 --> 00:21:45,530
sites that have lunar alignments and the

596
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:47,120
interesting thing about Chaco Canyon is

597
00:21:51,970 --> 00:21:50,570
that it has both which is rare I mean

598
00:21:53,710 --> 00:21:51,980
you just never see that you never see a

599
00:21:55,450 --> 00:21:53,720
site that actually has solar and lunar

600
00:21:58,540 --> 00:21:55,460
alignments and what's fascinating about

601
00:22:00,910 --> 00:21:58,550
that is that these lunar alignments some

602
00:22:04,170 --> 00:22:00,920
of the ones that that are marked in

603
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:04,180
Chaco Canyon would have taken someone

604
00:22:12,670 --> 00:22:09,850
living in the area for 50 to 60 years

605
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:12,680
prior to their ever being and you know

606
00:22:15,820 --> 00:22:13,970
people back then didn't live that long

607
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:15,830
there had to have been someone because

608
00:22:20,290 --> 00:22:17,930
living there for 50 or 60 years minimum

609
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:20,300
prior to these alignments being coated

610
00:22:24,450 --> 00:22:22,610
into the structures because they mark

611
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:24,460
and document things that only happen

612
00:22:28,420 --> 00:22:27,170
every once in a part in the phrase but

613
00:22:30,550 --> 00:22:28,430
every once in a blue moon

614
00:22:32,470 --> 00:22:30,560
very rarely do these alignments actually

615
00:22:35,410 --> 00:22:32,480
happen so how was someone able to

616
00:22:37,930 --> 00:22:35,420
accurately know and predict these lunar

617
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:37,940
alignments and then build them into this

618
00:22:42,460 --> 00:22:40,490
structure without living out there for

619
00:22:43,630 --> 00:22:42,470
you know at least 60 to 100 years that's

620
00:22:45,610 --> 00:22:43,640
the thing about it to me that's

621
00:22:47,770 --> 00:22:45,620
fascinating is that there was a high

622
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:47,780
degree of knowledge and technology that

623
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:50,210
was put into these things and you know

624
00:22:53,980 --> 00:22:52,490
today is still very relevant in another

625
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:53,990
thing I found in these ancient sites and

626
00:22:59,710 --> 00:22:55,970
I've even found them locally here in

627
00:23:01,450 --> 00:22:59,720
other sites are the well the mathematic

628
00:23:05,169 --> 00:23:01,460
especially like with a lot of these

629
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:05,179
sites in Ohio there's one here not far

630
00:23:09,460 --> 00:23:06,890
from Rockwall there's a town here in

631
00:23:11,289 --> 00:23:09,470
around Dallas called Flower Mound and I

632
00:23:12,909 --> 00:23:11,299
never thought for years it would have

633
00:23:14,770 --> 00:23:12,919
anything to do with his work and then I

634
00:23:16,779 --> 00:23:14,780
started looking into it and finding out

635
00:23:17,950 --> 00:23:16,789
wait a minute you know there's there was

636
00:23:23,740 --> 00:23:17,960
this giant mound here

637
00:23:25,289 --> 00:23:23,750
it's 666 feet above sea level that got

638
00:23:28,149 --> 00:23:25,299
my attention because I started finding

639
00:23:29,740 --> 00:23:28,159
666 and all of these ancient sites build

640
00:23:30,940 --> 00:23:29,750
across the Ohio Valley now that doesn't

641
00:23:32,409 --> 00:23:30,950
have anything to do with the mark of the

642
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:32,419
beast or anything like people think but

643
00:23:38,490 --> 00:23:35,570
it goes back to the Babylonian numerical

644
00:23:41,770 --> 00:23:38,500
system that they numbered their gods in

645
00:23:44,710 --> 00:23:41,780
666 was the number that they attributed

646
00:23:47,529 --> 00:23:44,720
to the Sun God so with the solar

647
00:23:49,860 --> 00:23:47,539
alignments in these sites and the

648
00:23:52,120 --> 00:23:49,870
connection back to the Babylonian

649
00:23:54,159 --> 00:23:52,130
numerical system and that's another

650
00:23:56,799 --> 00:23:54,169
thing Native Americans did not have

651
00:23:58,840 --> 00:23:56,809
knowledge of the base 60 numerical

652
00:24:00,850 --> 00:23:58,850
system it just wasn't anything that they

653
00:24:03,430 --> 00:24:00,860
had so again that's when I knew that

654
00:24:04,870 --> 00:24:03,440
okay we were dealing with people who the

655
00:24:07,450 --> 00:24:04,880
evidence shows came from the ancient

656
00:24:09,850 --> 00:24:07,460
Middle East they had very sophisticated

657
00:24:13,060 --> 00:24:09,860
knowledge that in some cases goes beyond

658
00:24:14,770 --> 00:24:13,070
what we even have today and the evidence

659
00:24:16,690 --> 00:24:14,780
of their being here is scattered all

660
00:24:18,460 --> 00:24:16,700
across America so yeah that's really

661
00:24:20,860 --> 00:24:18,470
what's the basis of both of those films

662
00:24:23,649 --> 00:24:20,870
the law secrets is really all about em

663
00:24:26,590 --> 00:24:23,659
and I love them and that is a threat and

664
00:24:28,870 --> 00:24:26,600
topic that I love when I see researchers

665
00:24:31,299 --> 00:24:28,880
digging in deep because you know growing

666
00:24:33,070 --> 00:24:31,309
up here in America I would always hear

667
00:24:35,350 --> 00:24:33,080
about the Giza Plateau and be like oh my

668
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:35,360
god you know I can't wait to be able to

669
00:24:39,399 --> 00:24:36,770
afford to be able to go over there and

670
00:24:41,710 --> 00:24:39,409
see these things meanwhile you know

671
00:24:43,539 --> 00:24:41,720
things are all around us here in North

672
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:43,549
America and they're just off the radar

673
00:24:48,279 --> 00:24:45,530
and it's because they were built out of

674
00:24:50,950 --> 00:24:48,289
Earth and things that look more natural

675
00:24:53,169 --> 00:24:50,960
rather than the things that the Giza

676
00:24:55,360 --> 00:24:53,179
Plateau is built out of but it doesn't

677
00:24:57,730 --> 00:24:55,370
mean that in the back of mall parking

678
00:24:59,320 --> 00:24:57,740
lots or underneath their construction

679
00:25:01,500 --> 00:24:59,330
there isn't some amazing things like

680
00:25:03,669 --> 00:25:01,510
right here in your own backyard to find

681
00:25:05,230 --> 00:25:03,679
ya there's stuff I mean there's stuff

682
00:25:06,310 --> 00:25:05,240
scattered all across the entire United

683
00:25:07,750 --> 00:25:06,320
States and there's been so much that's

684
00:25:09,430 --> 00:25:07,760
been covered up and stuff it's head

685
00:25:12,549 --> 00:25:09,440
Lakes build on it I mean we'll just

686
00:25:13,360 --> 00:25:12,559
never really why we really never really

687
00:25:14,710 --> 00:25:13,370
know how

688
00:25:16,750 --> 00:25:14,720
much is here but I think it's important

689
00:25:18,430 --> 00:25:16,760
to as you said you know keep digging

690
00:25:22,299 --> 00:25:18,440
taking those opportunities when we can a

691
00:25:24,100 --> 00:25:22,309
man man and it is a sad shame and

692
00:25:26,740 --> 00:25:24,110
injustice you know the fact that so much

693
00:25:28,990 --> 00:25:26,750
of it has been lost but to switch gears

694
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:29,000
and do a kind of a 180 over to the

695
00:25:34,360 --> 00:25:32,690
spellcasters I did love this this film

696
00:25:35,770 --> 00:25:34,370
of course it is going to be one in

697
00:25:38,410 --> 00:25:35,780
there's going to be more to follow

698
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:38,420
because it is so deep as well but you

699
00:25:43,390 --> 00:25:40,850
you start that film with the question

700
00:25:45,850 --> 00:25:43,400
who runs Hollywood and you note that so

701
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:45,860
many people in this alternative run will

702
00:25:50,460 --> 00:25:48,770
just chalk it up to the Jews but that

703
00:25:53,650 --> 00:25:50,470
really is a gross oversimplification

704
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:53,660
what can you tell us about the erection

705
00:25:57,250 --> 00:25:54,890
of Hollywood and some of the players

706
00:25:59,740 --> 00:25:57,260
involved in in sentence Ethan to in this

707
00:26:01,150 --> 00:25:59,750
latest film well yeah it's a great thing

708
00:26:02,919 --> 00:26:01,160
that's one of the things I want to

709
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:02,929
encourage people especially people out

710
00:26:05,950 --> 00:26:04,250
there who are researching this kind of

711
00:26:08,860 --> 00:26:05,960
stuff on their own and and doing their

712
00:26:10,930 --> 00:26:08,870
own homework in it is that sometimes in

713
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:10,940
some cases yes I'll give you that in

714
00:26:16,180 --> 00:26:12,770
sometimes some cases that the most

715
00:26:18,130 --> 00:26:16,190
obvious answer is the the true answer

716
00:26:19,510 --> 00:26:18,140
but not in every case and that's one of

717
00:26:22,990 --> 00:26:19,520
the things that I discovered with this

718
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:23,000
is that if you look at who founded

719
00:26:26,980 --> 00:26:25,610
Hollywood unquestionably unquestionably

720
00:26:30,940 --> 00:26:26,990
it was the founders of Hollywood were

721
00:26:32,950 --> 00:26:30,950
Jewish and their whole idea of getting

722
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:32,960
away from that because if they found out

723
00:26:37,419 --> 00:26:34,850
when the Motion Pictures technology

724
00:26:39,490 --> 00:26:37,429
first are do develop they figured out

725
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:39,500
that and this is no joke and this is

726
00:26:42,700 --> 00:26:40,850
honest truth you can look it up they

727
00:26:46,140 --> 00:26:42,710
start setting up what they called

728
00:26:49,570 --> 00:26:46,150
Nickelodeon's and back then risque

729
00:26:51,549 --> 00:26:49,580
pornography was not a naked woman it was

730
00:26:54,130 --> 00:26:51,559
a woman showing her bare ankles I mean

731
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:54,140
that wasn't considered risque filmmaking

732
00:26:56,710 --> 00:26:55,850
but I certainly people would pay money

733
00:26:58,030 --> 00:26:56,720
up front

734
00:26:59,500 --> 00:26:58,040
that's when they knew they were on to

735
00:27:01,570 --> 00:26:59,510
something like wait a minute we've got

736
00:27:03,610 --> 00:27:01,580
people who are lining up they're paying

737
00:27:06,700 --> 00:27:03,620
money up front before receiving any

738
00:27:08,350 --> 00:27:06,710
product before they get anything so we

739
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:08,360
actually get their money in and then

740
00:27:12,580 --> 00:27:10,010
what when they come in what they're

741
00:27:14,140 --> 00:27:12,590
shown could be total crap and I think

742
00:27:16,270 --> 00:27:14,150
that's it's kind of ironic because

743
00:27:18,310 --> 00:27:16,280
that's kind of what downloading and

744
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:18,320
streaming and stuff it's kind of killed

745
00:27:22,150 --> 00:27:20,450
yeah within the movie industry and the

746
00:27:24,220 --> 00:27:22,160
music industry it's killed this whole

747
00:27:25,690 --> 00:27:24,230
thing where you get their money up front

748
00:27:27,250 --> 00:27:25,700
and then once they get into the theater

749
00:27:29,019 --> 00:27:27,260
of what they're shown is crap

750
00:27:30,669 --> 00:27:29,029
well then so what haha we got your money

751
00:27:31,899 --> 00:27:30,679
it's gets killed that whole thing but

752
00:27:33,700 --> 00:27:31,909
that was the business model that they

753
00:27:36,430 --> 00:27:33,710
started up with and really it was about

754
00:27:40,570 --> 00:27:36,440
being able to get away from having to

755
00:27:41,860 --> 00:27:40,580
pay royalty fees to the Edison trust for

756
00:27:43,299 --> 00:27:41,870
the use of their cameras and their

757
00:27:44,379 --> 00:27:43,309
camera technology so they said well you

758
00:27:46,180 --> 00:27:44,389
know what we've got money

759
00:27:47,259 --> 00:27:46,190
we've got other people what we're going

760
00:27:49,299 --> 00:27:47,269
to do we're going to go out here out

761
00:27:51,909 --> 00:27:49,309
west we're going to start our own

762
00:27:52,990 --> 00:27:51,919
studios and we'll be so far away from

763
00:27:54,940 --> 00:27:53,000
the east coast

764
00:27:57,430 --> 00:27:54,950
where the main movie industry at that

765
00:27:59,200 --> 00:27:57,440
point was headed and located that we'll

766
00:28:01,269 --> 00:27:59,210
be able to basically do whatever we want

767
00:28:04,299 --> 00:28:01,279
out here so it was set up with that

768
00:28:06,519 --> 00:28:04,309
spirit and the idea of basically going

769
00:28:09,100 --> 00:28:06,529
against the mainstream already started

770
00:28:11,139 --> 00:28:09,110
out as a very underground thing and was

771
00:28:13,210 --> 00:28:11,149
very independent and still it started

772
00:28:15,220 --> 00:28:13,220
producing money and once it started

773
00:28:17,350 --> 00:28:15,230
producing money and then you had you

774
00:28:19,060 --> 00:28:17,360
know World War two happen and you start

775
00:28:21,490 --> 00:28:19,070
having a shift and balance of power

776
00:28:24,990 --> 00:28:21,500
across the board the powers that be

777
00:28:27,909 --> 00:28:25,000
started to understand what a powerful

778
00:28:30,220 --> 00:28:27,919
manipulation tool coming electronic

779
00:28:32,710 --> 00:28:30,230
media that's on radio you had stuff like

780
00:28:34,090 --> 00:28:32,720
even the HG Welles War of the Worlds

781
00:28:35,500 --> 00:28:34,100
broadcast which I could have put in

782
00:28:37,899 --> 00:28:35,510
there in the film and I really kind of

783
00:28:40,029 --> 00:28:37,909
forgot - that was kind of an early you

784
00:28:41,710 --> 00:28:40,039
know test to test really the response of

785
00:28:43,149 --> 00:28:41,720
the public and kind of gauge and really

786
00:28:44,529 --> 00:28:43,159
I think with the more I look at it I

787
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:44,539
think it was really one of the earliest

788
00:28:48,580 --> 00:28:46,490
forms of psychological warfare you know

789
00:28:51,669 --> 00:28:48,590
I really think that's what it was and so

790
00:28:53,769 --> 00:28:51,679
once that power was seen by the powers

791
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:53,779
that be they started trying to get their

792
00:28:57,100 --> 00:28:55,130
hands on and that's what we discuss in

793
00:28:58,210 --> 00:28:57,110
the film we show all the connections to

794
00:29:01,389 --> 00:28:58,220
what happened with a Hollywood blacklist

795
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:01,399
in 1947 and how that coincides with all

796
00:29:06,639 --> 00:29:05,090
these other insane events world-changing

797
00:29:09,700 --> 00:29:06,649
events that affect us in this very day

798
00:29:11,500 --> 00:29:09,710
where power consolidation and the

799
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:11,510
government's ability to be able to do

800
00:29:15,190 --> 00:29:13,370
whatever they want in secret without

801
00:29:18,190 --> 00:29:15,200
having to tell the American public all

802
00:29:21,490 --> 00:29:18,200
that stuff came together in 1947 and it

803
00:29:24,879 --> 00:29:21,500
also came and coincides exactly with the

804
00:29:27,519 --> 00:29:24,889
formation of Scientology MKULTRA and the

805
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:27,529
rest of them mm-hmm and yeah you just

806
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:29,210
touched on something I definitely wanted

807
00:29:32,470 --> 00:29:31,130
to ask you about because it a real light

808
00:29:33,850 --> 00:29:32,480
bulb went off in my head but when

809
00:29:36,519 --> 00:29:33,860
talking about something as big as

810
00:29:37,860 --> 00:29:36,529
Hollywood I think skeptics to the idea

811
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:37,870
that it's a highly controlled

812
00:29:41,110 --> 00:29:40,490
manipulation machine would say that it's

813
00:29:42,970 --> 00:29:41,120
just too

814
00:29:45,210 --> 00:29:42,980
big there's too many people involved now

815
00:29:47,890 --> 00:29:45,220
and all that stuff but they forget that

816
00:29:50,230 --> 00:29:47,900
many of the founding studios are still

817
00:29:51,850 --> 00:29:50,240
the biggest and there have been calling

818
00:29:53,500 --> 00:29:51,860
events that removed a lot of the

819
00:29:56,290 --> 00:29:53,510
filmmakers who weren't part of the

820
00:29:58,240 --> 00:29:56,300
larger agenda which is the real subtext

821
00:30:01,330 --> 00:29:58,250
to what you mentioned the Red Scare

822
00:30:02,950 --> 00:30:01,340
blacklisting saga right absolutely and

823
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:02,960
that's really where you get into the

824
00:30:08,620 --> 00:30:05,930
whole idea of why the perception that

825
00:30:11,350 --> 00:30:08,630
Jews have run and still ran run

826
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:11,360
Hollywood with no other involvement

827
00:30:15,850 --> 00:30:13,490
that's why that's come about because a

828
00:30:18,190 --> 00:30:15,860
lot of these guys once the Hollywood

829
00:30:19,390 --> 00:30:18,200
started being taken over in 47 they kept

830
00:30:21,970 --> 00:30:19,400
their mouth shut they were essentially

831
00:30:23,980 --> 00:30:21,980
given the ability to be able to be in

832
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:23,990
power and be in charge over this while

833
00:30:27,220 --> 00:30:25,730
taking their marching orders and being

834
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:27,230
told what to do by the federal

835
00:30:31,660 --> 00:30:29,450
government whoever else at any time and

836
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:31,670
this is really why after 1947 he started

837
00:30:36,190 --> 00:30:34,490
see the motion pictures everything

838
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:36,200
coming out starting to be more

839
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:37,970
manipulative and things there where they

840
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:40,010
were you know these Jewish filmmakers

841
00:30:44,230 --> 00:30:41,690
were making films that were

842
00:30:45,820 --> 00:30:44,240
predominantly revolving around gung-ho

843
00:30:48,250 --> 00:30:45,830
go America

844
00:30:49,750 --> 00:30:48,260
patriotic ideas and by their own

845
00:30:51,220 --> 00:30:49,760
admission they were only doing this

846
00:30:52,930 --> 00:30:51,230
because they turned a profit that they

847
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:52,940
didn't care about those ideas and have

848
00:30:56,530 --> 00:30:54,650
want to put those out there but because

849
00:30:58,510 --> 00:30:56,540
these things were able to turn a profit

850
00:31:00,610 --> 00:30:58,520
this is why they got behind him and then

851
00:31:02,950 --> 00:31:00,620
this is mirrored in the modern day with

852
00:31:05,860 --> 00:31:02,960
script approval and now the Pentagon's

853
00:31:09,250 --> 00:31:05,870
DoD giving certain films script approval

854
00:31:11,799 --> 00:31:09,260
and allowing their weaponry and

855
00:31:14,380 --> 00:31:11,809
technology and whatever it may be to be

856
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:14,390
depicted in the films in exchange for

857
00:31:18,700 --> 00:31:17,210
final say for what goes in to the

858
00:31:21,010 --> 00:31:18,710
content of the films that way if there's

859
00:31:23,710 --> 00:31:21,020
anything that they perceive as being too

860
00:31:27,850 --> 00:31:23,720
close to the truth or something that may

861
00:31:29,410 --> 00:31:27,860
expose a lot of the black ops and things

862
00:31:31,210 --> 00:31:29,420
that are going on then they get the

863
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:31,220
final say to say no we're not going to

864
00:31:34,150 --> 00:31:32,330
do that and that's control I mean

865
00:31:37,570 --> 00:31:34,160
anytime you have any government agency

866
00:31:40,419 --> 00:31:37,580
that it has final say and dictates the

867
00:31:42,910 --> 00:31:40,429
content of a motion picture or a TV show

868
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:42,920
or anything else that by the direct

869
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:45,050
definition of it is government control

870
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:47,170
of that so I was just fascinated to see

871
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:52,490
that 1947 was the establishment of the

872
00:31:58,799 --> 00:31:54,730
entire national security apparatus

873
00:32:01,740 --> 00:31:58,809
it was set up and really modeled after a

874
00:32:03,900 --> 00:32:01,750
lot of the Nazis that were brought over

875
00:32:06,030 --> 00:32:03,910
after Project Paperclip you had all of

876
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:06,040
these various people that were trying to

877
00:32:11,430 --> 00:32:09,730
lock down the power structure within the

878
00:32:13,020 --> 00:32:11,440
United States to give them total secrecy

879
00:32:16,590 --> 00:32:13,030
and to be able to operate with impunity

880
00:32:19,169 --> 00:32:16,600
and so it's just fascinating to look at

881
00:32:21,500 --> 00:32:19,179
these players who were on the ground

882
00:32:23,940 --> 00:32:21,510
floor of the OSS during the MKULTRA

883
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:23,950
people like Sumner Redstone you know who

884
00:32:28,350 --> 00:32:26,410
was in the OSS at the same time that l

885
00:32:31,409 --> 00:32:28,360
ron Hubbard was and you start to see how

886
00:32:33,900 --> 00:32:31,419
later on these people became the biggest

887
00:32:36,900 --> 00:32:33,910
things in their particular field but all

888
00:32:39,539 --> 00:32:36,910
started in 1947 during the time when the

889
00:32:42,180 --> 00:32:39,549
mind control and trying to not only

890
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:42,190
control individuals and create willing

891
00:32:50,070 --> 00:32:46,330
slaves but also to manipulate and to

892
00:32:52,500 --> 00:32:50,080
create a false narrative and reality for

893
00:32:54,150 --> 00:32:52,510
the entire world that everyone believes

894
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:54,160
is real and that's I mean people talk

895
00:32:58,620 --> 00:32:55,450
about the matrix and things like that

896
00:33:00,270 --> 00:32:58,630
but long before there was this idea of a

897
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:00,280
digital control around these people were

898
00:33:04,530 --> 00:33:01,570
setting up a control room where they

899
00:33:07,409 --> 00:33:04,540
create reality through television

900
00:33:08,850 --> 00:33:07,419
through movies and then they do it in

901
00:33:11,430 --> 00:33:08,860
such a way where they get people to

902
00:33:13,830 --> 00:33:11,440
start to believe that that reality

903
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:13,840
reflects a real reality and I think that

904
00:33:18,870 --> 00:33:15,370
we've all been at some point probably

905
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:18,880
taken by this mm-hmm absolutely man it

906
00:33:25,380 --> 00:33:21,570
is a deep manipulation that has been

907
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:25,390
engineered for a long time and so let's

908
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:27,730
bring Scientology into the mix here you

909
00:33:32,669 --> 00:33:30,370
know most people they know it's popular

910
00:33:34,919 --> 00:33:32,679
in Hollywood but I've typically just

911
00:33:37,530 --> 00:33:34,929
chalked it up to some new-age cult for

912
00:33:39,539 --> 00:33:37,540
board actors but as is usually the case

913
00:33:41,610 --> 00:33:39,549
it's a lot more than that can you tell

914
00:33:43,740 --> 00:33:41,620
us a bit about the origins of

915
00:33:44,700 --> 00:33:43,750
Scientology and why we should really

916
00:33:46,950 --> 00:33:44,710
keep an eye on it

917
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:46,960
well as I mentioned it started out with

918
00:33:51,409 --> 00:33:49,450
l ron Hubbard who's in the Navy and then

919
00:33:54,390 --> 00:33:51,419
a right around the time that he

920
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:54,400
supposedly left he shifted into

921
00:33:58,440 --> 00:33:56,410
operations from the OSS the Office of

922
00:34:01,409 --> 00:33:58,450
Strategic Services which predated the

923
00:34:03,450 --> 00:34:01,419
CIA and around that time right after

924
00:34:05,970 --> 00:34:03,460
Project Paperclip the government became

925
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:05,980
interested in creating its own

926
00:34:10,980 --> 00:34:08,650
mind-control program that it had seen

927
00:34:12,930 --> 00:34:10,990
the Nazis have success with so they

928
00:34:15,300 --> 00:34:12,940
started mining there was a former Nazi

929
00:34:17,070 --> 00:34:15,310
scientist dr. strughold who had

930
00:34:19,050 --> 00:34:17,080
conducted all these experiments in

931
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:19,060
Germany and they brought over after war

932
00:34:23,190 --> 00:34:21,370
too and then he started basically giving

933
00:34:24,300 --> 00:34:23,200
them all his information and they

934
00:34:27,690 --> 00:34:24,310
started trying to figure out how to

935
00:34:29,820 --> 00:34:27,700
create true serums they wanted drugs

936
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:29,830
that basically could get a foreign enemy

937
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:32,170
to give them any information and so

938
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:36,010
after transitioning from the OSS l ron

939
00:34:40,980 --> 00:34:39,010
Hubbard was sent over to England because

940
00:34:43,470 --> 00:34:40,990
they had noticed that during a lot of

941
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:43,480
these mind-control elements and aspects

942
00:34:46,650 --> 00:34:45,370
that the Nazis had been working on one

943
00:34:48,240 --> 00:34:46,660
of the things they were combining with

944
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:48,250
this and had had great success at

945
00:34:53,190 --> 00:34:50,410
combining with was the use of black

946
00:34:55,650 --> 00:34:53,200
magic and incantations and things where

947
00:34:58,680 --> 00:34:55,660
they could put people in a certain state

948
00:35:00,660 --> 00:34:58,690
and then their mind-control drugs or the

949
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:00,670
ability to create these what they called

950
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:04,330
robot assassins they had a much stronger

951
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:07,450
effect with the use of black magic so l

952
00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:09,490
ron Hubbard at that time was sent over

953
00:35:15,570 --> 00:35:12,730
by the OSS to go to England to

954
00:35:16,890 --> 00:35:15,580
infiltrate the Crowley organisations

955
00:35:20,700 --> 00:35:16,900
Aleister Crowley words they such as the

956
00:35:22,350 --> 00:35:20,710
öto to gain this various magical

957
00:35:25,260 --> 00:35:22,360
knowledge that they could bring back and

958
00:35:27,900 --> 00:35:25,270
then use it what would eventually become

959
00:35:30,060 --> 00:35:27,910
the MKULTRA mind control program and so

960
00:35:32,190 --> 00:35:30,070
while he was there he did indeed

961
00:35:33,690 --> 00:35:32,200
befriend Aleister Crowley and Aleister

962
00:35:36,090 --> 00:35:33,700
Crowley gave him the magical initiate

963
00:35:38,550 --> 00:35:36,100
name freighter H and for many years

964
00:35:40,620 --> 00:35:38,560
people never knew who freighter H was

965
00:35:42,750 --> 00:35:40,630
until it was later revealed that it was

966
00:35:47,070 --> 00:35:42,760
l ron Hubbard but that was when he he

967
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:47,080
was instructed by Crowley in the magical

968
00:35:52,350 --> 00:35:49,210
arts and he was also told about this

969
00:35:54,690 --> 00:35:52,360
gentleman in Hollywood California who

970
00:35:56,790 --> 00:35:54,700
had just set up the first branch of the

971
00:35:59,430 --> 00:35:56,800
OTO in America there by the name of Jack

972
00:36:02,040 --> 00:35:59,440
Parsons who was trying to do this ritual

973
00:36:03,930 --> 00:36:02,050
this babylon working ritual in order to

974
00:36:06,180 --> 00:36:03,940
conjure the Scarlet woman do all this

975
00:36:08,610 --> 00:36:06,190
was immediately got l ron Hubbard

976
00:36:10,740 --> 00:36:08,620
interested so that was when he went back

977
00:36:11,700 --> 00:36:10,750
and met with Jack Parsons he went on to

978
00:36:14,340 --> 00:36:11,710
form of course the Jet Propulsion

979
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:14,350
Laboratory he went on to create these

980
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:15,850
elements that they still use to this day

981
00:36:20,460 --> 00:36:18,370
in solid rocket fuel boosters that are

982
00:36:22,340 --> 00:36:20,470
pentagram shapes and the pentagram

983
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:22,350
shaping of them actually a

984
00:36:26,690 --> 00:36:24,330
allows the fuel to burn in a more

985
00:36:29,390 --> 00:36:26,700
efficient rate and they're still used in

986
00:36:31,910 --> 00:36:29,400
ICBM missiles and and everything else to

987
00:36:35,110 --> 00:36:31,920
this day and this was where Ellen

988
00:36:38,660 --> 00:36:35,120
Hubbard started to see that when you

989
00:36:40,970 --> 00:36:38,670
learned these magical arts you could

990
00:36:42,890 --> 00:36:40,980
combine them and use the phraseology in

991
00:36:44,870 --> 00:36:42,900
retro leave all down to was the

992
00:36:47,390 --> 00:36:44,880
phraseology the speaking the cadence

993
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:47,400
this was really the early days of what

994
00:36:51,740 --> 00:36:49,650
would become NLP neuro-linguistic

995
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:51,750
programming which was also developed

996
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:55,050
there with the MKULTRA program so once

997
00:37:01,640 --> 00:36:57,690
this information was attained l ron

998
00:37:03,140 --> 00:37:01,650
Hubbard in 1947 started to write based

999
00:37:05,180 --> 00:37:03,150
on what he had discovered from Aleister

1000
00:37:06,650 --> 00:37:05,190
Crowley and his experiences with Jack

1001
00:37:09,890 --> 00:37:06,660
bars to start to write what would

1002
00:37:11,810 --> 00:37:09,900
eventually become Dianetics and it's

1003
00:37:13,630 --> 00:37:11,820
interesting that the way that his

1004
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:13,640
writings were set up for Dianetics are

1005
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:16,290
modeled almost word-for-word in some

1006
00:37:21,230 --> 00:37:19,410
cases - Aleister Crowley's own work and

1007
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:21,240
then some of the things in the very

1008
00:37:27,470 --> 00:37:24,570
early MKULTRA documents there is stuff

1009
00:37:29,990 --> 00:37:27,480
where l ron Hubbard took things that you

1010
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:30,000
can see in these MKULTRA manuals that

1011
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:31,410
are in some cases are taken

1012
00:37:36,260 --> 00:37:33,570
word-for-word where he's even changed

1013
00:37:39,020 --> 00:37:36,270
the wording of it they are exactly the

1014
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:39,030
same so once they started to figure out

1015
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:42,210
that the information is far as black

1016
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:44,490
magic and being able to create and

1017
00:37:48,530 --> 00:37:46,050
control people and really it boils down

1018
00:37:51,740 --> 00:37:48,540
to what his son described as as soul

1019
00:37:53,990 --> 00:37:51,750
cracking yeah that's really what it's

1020
00:37:56,690 --> 00:37:54,000
all about is being able to use these

1021
00:37:58,340 --> 00:37:56,700
techniques that open a person up and

1022
00:38:00,500 --> 00:37:58,350
make them susceptible to control by

1023
00:38:02,900 --> 00:38:00,510
these entities which seem to be demonic

1024
00:38:06,140 --> 00:38:02,910
in nature that Scientology then calls

1025
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:06,150
Satan's and then tells its flock that

1026
00:38:09,980 --> 00:38:08,610
these are these dead alien souls and

1027
00:38:11,990 --> 00:38:09,990
I'll you know give us all your money in

1028
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:12,000
and we'll help exorcise them from you

1029
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:13,410
but when reality what they're doing is

1030
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:16,050
they're allowing their subconscious and

1031
00:38:21,230 --> 00:38:18,930
conscious mind to be opened up that each

1032
00:38:23,750 --> 00:38:21,240
successive level you go up through the

1033
00:38:25,790 --> 00:38:23,760
OD levels you are opened up more and

1034
00:38:28,910 --> 00:38:25,800
more to control and l ron Hubbard's own

1035
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:28,920
quote was Scientology a very effective

1036
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:31,890
mind control system that would turn

1037
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:33,690
people into willing slaves

1038
00:38:37,900 --> 00:38:35,930
could be

1039
00:38:39,970 --> 00:38:37,910
ducted from Scientology and that was the

1040
00:38:43,540 --> 00:38:39,980
entire point of it and his technology

1041
00:38:47,220 --> 00:38:43,550
that he later used I invented also would

1042
00:38:50,260 --> 00:38:47,230
go on to create the CIA remote viewing

1043
00:38:51,910 --> 00:38:50,270
technology in the early 1970s oh all of

1044
00:38:53,740 --> 00:38:51,920
this stuff and I mean it's just

1045
00:38:54,940 --> 00:38:53,750
mind-blowing we're only only scratching

1046
00:38:56,860 --> 00:38:54,950
the surface here I really wanted hurts

1047
00:38:58,270 --> 00:38:56,870
people to see the film because you know

1048
00:38:59,350 --> 00:38:58,280
it's almost three hours and I'm

1049
00:39:00,700 --> 00:38:59,360
certainly not going to give all the

1050
00:39:02,590 --> 00:39:00,710
information away here in the interview

1051
00:39:03,940 --> 00:39:02,600
but there's just more to it than I can

1052
00:39:04,990 --> 00:39:03,950
tell you and I hope that people will

1053
00:39:07,630 --> 00:39:05,000
definitely go and check it out

1054
00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:07,640
absolutely I mean just seeing some of

1055
00:39:12,670 --> 00:39:10,730
the footage itself that you have is

1056
00:39:14,110 --> 00:39:12,680
worth the price of admission because you

1057
00:39:16,570 --> 00:39:14,120
can talk about it all day but you got to

1058
00:39:19,260 --> 00:39:16,580
see some of this stuff and a man I mean

1059
00:39:21,790 --> 00:39:19,270
you really just laid out the crux of it

1060
00:39:24,010 --> 00:39:21,800
so many people think of l ron Hubbard is

1061
00:39:25,900 --> 00:39:24,020
just some crazy sci-fi writer who came

1062
00:39:27,670 --> 00:39:25,910
up with this idea for a money extracting

1063
00:39:29,950 --> 00:39:27,680
religion but when you get into these

1064
00:39:31,330 --> 00:39:29,960
military connections he's sent to

1065
00:39:32,890 --> 00:39:31,340
infiltrate the OTO

1066
00:39:35,350 --> 00:39:32,900
seems like what you're saying is

1067
00:39:38,170 --> 00:39:35,360
Scientology is this this amalgamation

1068
00:39:41,470 --> 00:39:38,180
this branch of MKULTRA that is

1069
00:39:44,620 --> 00:39:41,480
structured like a magical secret society

1070
00:39:46,780 --> 00:39:44,630
and just like what you said I mean and

1071
00:39:49,330 --> 00:39:46,790
with the OTO I've talked to people who

1072
00:39:50,740 --> 00:39:49,340
have studied it in depth and some people

1073
00:39:52,390 --> 00:39:50,750
who are even members of it and they

1074
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:52,400
always talk about the goal is to

1075
00:39:57,550 --> 00:39:54,890
strengthen the connection to the spirit

1076
00:40:00,520 --> 00:39:57,560
world to communicate with entities but

1077
00:40:03,370 --> 00:40:00,530
it seems like you know Scientology is

1078
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:03,380
some type of Trojan horse to get people

1079
00:40:07,300 --> 00:40:05,210
involved and of course take all their

1080
00:40:09,970 --> 00:40:07,310
money but at the same time yeah like you

1081
00:40:12,130 --> 00:40:09,980
mentioned with each level you're kind of

1082
00:40:16,150 --> 00:40:12,140
manipulating people's minds and bodies

1083
00:40:18,610 --> 00:40:16,160
to be more open to taking in entities

1084
00:40:21,130 --> 00:40:18,620
and that is provocative man it's it's

1085
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:21,140
very provocative well it you know it's

1086
00:40:25,540 --> 00:40:22,610
also fascinating too that a lot of the

1087
00:40:27,670 --> 00:40:25,550
original signatories on Scientology from

1088
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:27,680
its founding you know even though l ron

1089
00:40:31,750 --> 00:40:29,570
Hubbard had rules against people from

1090
00:40:33,940 --> 00:40:31,760
the FBI CAA any sort of government

1091
00:40:36,070 --> 00:40:33,950
outfit agencies going through

1092
00:40:39,820 --> 00:40:36,080
Scientology training and or auditing

1093
00:40:42,550 --> 00:40:39,830
sessions and yet many of the signatories

1094
00:40:44,110 --> 00:40:42,560
and the people who originally signed the

1095
00:40:45,930 --> 00:40:44,120
incorporation papers for Scientology

1096
00:40:49,809 --> 00:40:45,940
many of them there were current FBI

1097
00:40:51,519 --> 00:40:49,819
current OSS I mean you had

1098
00:40:53,380 --> 00:40:51,529
all sorts of people that were in these

1099
00:40:55,269 --> 00:40:53,390
agencies from the very beginning and

1100
00:40:58,299 --> 00:40:55,279
some of them became there was one guy

1101
00:41:02,380 --> 00:40:58,309
that became the first he was the very

1102
00:41:04,359 --> 00:41:02,390
first number one OT level seven which is

1103
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:04,369
one of the highest that there is he was

1104
00:41:09,009 --> 00:41:07,130
an NSA agent and even though the rules

1105
00:41:10,599 --> 00:41:09,019
stated that you know no one could do

1106
00:41:12,339 --> 00:41:10,609
this of course they did it in secret in

1107
00:41:15,249 --> 00:41:12,349
and that goes back to a lot of these

1108
00:41:17,049 --> 00:41:15,259
safe houses and these places where they

1109
00:41:19,269 --> 00:41:17,059
were doing some of these well they had

1110
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:19,279
various sites where they would tell the

1111
00:41:24,219 --> 00:41:22,130
practitioners of Scientology that l ron

1112
00:41:26,650 --> 00:41:24,229
Hubbard was going to write the next

1113
00:41:29,650 --> 00:41:26,660
levels or whatever it may be oh he's

1114
00:41:32,349 --> 00:41:29,660
going here and he'll transmit the next

1115
00:41:34,630 --> 00:41:32,359
level to the other higher-ups in

1116
00:41:36,729 --> 00:41:34,640
Scientology from these locations but

1117
00:41:39,549 --> 00:41:36,739
essentially these locations were nothing

1118
00:41:41,289 --> 00:41:39,559
more than fronts and they were using all

1119
00:41:44,109 --> 00:41:41,299
of the data and the knowledge that they

1120
00:41:46,509 --> 00:41:44,119
had gotten from people in these auditing

1121
00:41:48,670 --> 00:41:46,519
sessions they were then selling this

1122
00:41:52,089 --> 00:41:48,680
information off to the highest bidder

1123
00:41:54,579 --> 00:41:52,099
including the KGB and Russia in the

1124
00:41:56,620 --> 00:41:54,589
heart of the Cold War l ron Hubbard and

1125
00:41:58,479 --> 00:41:56,630
Scientology were using these safe houses

1126
00:41:59,799 --> 00:41:58,489
to sell information and knowledge that

1127
00:42:01,900 --> 00:41:59,809
they glean from the auditing to the

1128
00:42:03,819 --> 00:42:01,910
highest bidder so when you start to look

1129
00:42:06,039 --> 00:42:03,829
at those connections and connect back to

1130
00:42:07,839 --> 00:42:06,049
some of the people in the modern day

1131
00:42:08,259 --> 00:42:07,849
that have connections back to the KGB as

1132
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:08,269
well

1133
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:09,650
then you start to see this bigger

1134
00:42:15,430 --> 00:42:12,170
picture that this is essentially just an

1135
00:42:18,759 --> 00:42:15,440
espionage group that is basically using

1136
00:42:20,170 --> 00:42:18,769
weaponized humans through the ability to

1137
00:42:21,699 --> 00:42:20,180
be able to control them and their every

1138
00:42:23,589 --> 00:42:21,709
thought and then of course as you

1139
00:42:26,529 --> 00:42:23,599
mentioned the perfect front for all this

1140
00:42:29,709 --> 00:42:26,539
of course the perfect front to have the

1141
00:42:32,529 --> 00:42:29,719
people perceive what this thing actually

1142
00:42:35,079 --> 00:42:32,539
is is for it to be just some kooky cult

1143
00:42:37,449 --> 00:42:35,089
that started by a sci-fi writer that's

1144
00:42:39,519 --> 00:42:37,459
the front that is why it's so perfect

1145
00:42:41,199 --> 00:42:39,529
because when people don't go any farther

1146
00:42:42,699 --> 00:42:41,209
than that just as we mentioned earlier

1147
00:42:44,259 --> 00:42:42,709
when people just think oh well it's just

1148
00:42:46,089 --> 00:42:44,269
the Jews and control Hollywood and they

1149
00:42:48,999 --> 00:42:46,099
don't go any farther than that then

1150
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:49,009
you're able to keep that perception of

1151
00:42:52,779 --> 00:42:51,170
knowledge in a controlled way because

1152
00:42:54,249 --> 00:42:52,789
people are only thinking well it's just

1153
00:42:56,170 --> 00:42:54,259
this and nothing else so there's no

1154
00:42:57,339 --> 00:42:56,180
reason to look into it that's where they

1155
00:42:58,719 --> 00:42:57,349
get you and I think that's one they've

1156
00:43:02,049 --> 00:42:58,729
gotten away with this for as long as

1157
00:43:02,730 --> 00:43:02,059
they have yeah man and you mentioned

1158
00:43:03,750 --> 00:43:02,740
thetan

1159
00:43:06,150 --> 00:43:03,760
and for people who don't know

1160
00:43:08,970 --> 00:43:06,160
Scientology all that well Satan's are

1161
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:08,980
what they call alien ghosts or it's a

1162
00:43:15,570 --> 00:43:11,770
big part of their religion not ghosts

1163
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:15,580
but actual Souls alien Souls and which

1164
00:43:19,650 --> 00:43:18,130
is really this is basically a code for

1165
00:43:20,849 --> 00:43:19,660
demons right I mean that's that's your

1166
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:20,859
contention because they're not going to

1167
00:43:24,870 --> 00:43:22,570
tell people hey let's open you up to

1168
00:43:27,180 --> 00:43:24,880
demons so they made up a word to kind of

1169
00:43:28,829 --> 00:43:27,190
put a different packaging on it yeah

1170
00:43:30,510 --> 00:43:28,839
absolutely and it's amazing when you

1171
00:43:32,430 --> 00:43:30,520
look at as you mentioned you mentioned

1172
00:43:33,599 --> 00:43:32,440
the OTO there earlier that was one of

1173
00:43:35,670 --> 00:43:33,609
the things for me four years from

1174
00:43:37,380 --> 00:43:35,680
studying Freemasonry and and looking at

1175
00:43:39,240 --> 00:43:37,390
the different levels of Freemasonry

1176
00:43:41,910 --> 00:43:39,250
specifically in Scottish Rite masonry

1177
00:43:44,310 --> 00:43:41,920
and how each successive level in

1178
00:43:46,230 --> 00:43:44,320
Freemasonry it's the same way each

1179
00:43:48,810 --> 00:43:46,240
successive level that you go up through

1180
00:43:51,300 --> 00:43:48,820
masonry the rituals and whatnot that are

1181
00:43:53,099 --> 00:43:51,310
in the ritual books if you actually go

1182
00:43:54,900 --> 00:43:53,109
through and read them and I have that's

1183
00:43:56,849 --> 00:43:54,910
what they are they're these kind of

1184
00:43:59,720 --> 00:43:56,859
what's the word I'm looking for they're

1185
00:44:02,849 --> 00:43:59,730
kind of like dressed up versions of

1186
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:02,859
these same sort of stories and these

1187
00:44:07,050 --> 00:44:04,810
things where they do the same thing they

1188
00:44:09,390 --> 00:44:07,060
each successive level of Freemasonry

1189
00:44:10,770 --> 00:44:09,400
opens up your soul to control and

1190
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:10,780
eventually once you get to the highest

1191
00:44:15,210 --> 00:44:13,570
level supposedly you're fully controlled

1192
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:15,220
by one of these entities and the same

1193
00:44:20,310 --> 00:44:17,170
thing with Scientology as well once you

1194
00:44:22,530 --> 00:44:20,320
reach the highest ot levels you may just

1195
00:44:24,900 --> 00:44:22,540
look and appear to be you know just a

1196
00:44:29,099 --> 00:44:24,910
normal regular person but this is where

1197
00:44:30,839 --> 00:44:29,109
the completely autonomous take over by

1198
00:44:33,359 --> 00:44:30,849
whatever these entities are these

1199
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:33,369
Satan's again come into play and this is

1200
00:44:36,810 --> 00:44:35,170
not contested I mean over on Hubbard's

1201
00:44:38,730 --> 00:44:36,820
own son we've got interviews and an

1202
00:44:40,620 --> 00:44:38,740
audio with him in the film where you

1203
00:44:41,310 --> 00:44:40,630
know his very own son says yeah

1204
00:44:45,180 --> 00:44:41,320
absolutely

1205
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:45,190
magic and his soul cracking is

1206
00:44:50,630 --> 00:44:47,890
absolutely all about being able to open

1207
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:50,640
people up to control and and my

1208
00:44:54,540 --> 00:44:52,810
summation what worries me the most is

1209
00:44:56,010 --> 00:44:54,550
you know I can see the argument people

1210
00:44:57,900 --> 00:44:56,020
could make well well if they you know if

1211
00:44:59,370 --> 00:44:57,910
they want to do that to each other then

1212
00:45:01,710 --> 00:44:59,380
you know whatever it's not my business

1213
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:01,720
and I would agree but as you'll see when

1214
00:45:05,910 --> 00:45:03,490
you watch my film what it appears and

1215
00:45:08,220 --> 00:45:05,920
what worries me is that they want to

1216
00:45:11,420 --> 00:45:08,230
unleash this on everybody and they want

1217
00:45:15,660 --> 00:45:11,430
to do it in ways and make things where

1218
00:45:16,529 --> 00:45:15,670
the ultimate goal is to have this soul

1219
00:45:18,959 --> 00:45:16,539
cracking bill

1220
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:18,969
to be able to be unleashed on people

1221
00:45:22,829 --> 00:45:21,130
without them knowing at this point in

1222
00:45:24,599 --> 00:45:22,839
order for them to be able to do this

1223
00:45:26,039 --> 00:45:24,609
you've got to go through these levels

1224
00:45:28,109 --> 00:45:26,049
you've got to go through the auditing

1225
00:45:29,819 --> 00:45:28,119
through the training the ultimate goal

1226
00:45:31,319 --> 00:45:29,829
is to be able to have maybe through

1227
00:45:33,059 --> 00:45:31,329
technology I'm not really sure at this

1228
00:45:35,130 --> 00:45:33,069
point but some sort of ability where

1229
00:45:36,419 --> 00:45:35,140
they can do this and unleash it

1230
00:45:37,709 --> 00:45:36,429
electronically whether it be through

1231
00:45:40,319 --> 00:45:37,719
films the internet or everything else

1232
00:45:42,150 --> 00:45:40,329
and get this soul cracking to happen on

1233
00:45:44,519 --> 00:45:42,160
a level or they don't even have to have

1234
00:45:47,159 --> 00:45:44,529
people go through the various OT levels

1235
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:47,169
and that that's very scary yeah it

1236
00:45:52,890 --> 00:45:50,410
definitely is and in the film you talk

1237
00:45:54,870 --> 00:45:52,900
about Scientology and its beliefs on

1238
00:45:56,189 --> 00:45:54,880
aliens and you know we just kind of

1239
00:45:58,289 --> 00:45:56,199
talked about that a little bit that it's

1240
00:46:00,689 --> 00:45:58,299
kind of coded language but this might

1241
00:46:02,609 --> 00:46:00,699
get into kind of the disinfo elements or

1242
00:46:05,150 --> 00:46:02,619
their larger agenda they're larger

1243
00:46:08,579 --> 00:46:05,160
manipulations of culture but how does

1244
00:46:11,669 --> 00:46:08,589
Scientology's beliefs on aliens relate

1245
00:46:13,949 --> 00:46:11,679
to the way aliens are portrayed in

1246
00:46:15,179 --> 00:46:13,959
Hollywood and in the general culture is

1247
00:46:16,969 --> 00:46:15,189
there a connection there are they trying

1248
00:46:19,890 --> 00:46:16,979
to manipulate us to think a certain way

1249
00:46:22,409 --> 00:46:19,900
well that was something I wasn't aware

1250
00:46:25,079 --> 00:46:22,419
of until I got into this film some years

1251
00:46:28,140 --> 00:46:25,089
ago somebody had said to me hey have you

1252
00:46:30,089 --> 00:46:28,150
ever watched Battlefield Earth I know

1253
00:46:31,499 --> 00:46:30,099
I'm not watching Battlefield Earth it

1254
00:46:33,839 --> 00:46:31,509
would watch that crap and say you know

1255
00:46:35,399 --> 00:46:33,849
terrible I'd heard it was terrible in

1256
00:46:37,349 --> 00:46:35,409
Scientology when I got to watch it and

1257
00:46:40,109 --> 00:46:37,359
someone said no no no really you got to

1258
00:46:41,699 --> 00:46:40,119
watch this and I'm like why why don't we

1259
00:46:45,779 --> 00:46:41,709
watch it not just watch it okay so I

1260
00:46:49,609 --> 00:46:45,789
watch it and I was blown away I was wait

1261
00:46:52,769 --> 00:46:49,619
a minute this is this is taken verbatim

1262
00:46:54,359 --> 00:46:52,779
absolutely from stuff like zecharia

1263
00:46:55,769 --> 00:46:54,369
sitchin and some of the ancient Sumerian

1264
00:46:59,279 --> 00:46:55,779
texts and stuff it's basically the

1265
00:47:02,009 --> 00:46:59,289
Anunnaki 101 mm-hmm you've got a race of

1266
00:47:04,439 --> 00:47:02,019
aliens who are coming to earth to mine

1267
00:47:07,140 --> 00:47:04,449
for gold the intergalactic mining

1268
00:47:09,209 --> 00:47:07,150
company and basically enslave humans and

1269
00:47:11,939 --> 00:47:09,219
when I started putting together the

1270
00:47:14,009 --> 00:47:11,949
connections to the CIA with l ron

1271
00:47:16,589 --> 00:47:14,019
Hubbard and Scientology and I started

1272
00:47:18,059 --> 00:47:16,599
noticing and researching more you don't

1273
00:47:20,939 --> 00:47:18,069
find see that's the thing is that what

1274
00:47:25,169 --> 00:47:20,949
people understand is there are many many

1275
00:47:27,359 --> 00:47:25,179
people who become Scientologists and are

1276
00:47:29,570 --> 00:47:27,369
Scientologists for decades

1277
00:47:33,140 --> 00:47:29,580
years and years and years

1278
00:47:35,590 --> 00:47:33,150
unless they have the money to pay for

1279
00:47:38,180 --> 00:47:35,600
the upper level ot auditing sessions

1280
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:38,190
they don't get this information

1281
00:47:43,850 --> 00:47:41,010
the Xenu stuff in the space alien stuff

1282
00:47:46,130 --> 00:47:43,860
and resume does not get introduced into

1283
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:46,140
the picture until you reach the very

1284
00:47:50,450 --> 00:47:48,930
upper echelon levels you know we with

1285
00:47:53,240 --> 00:47:50,460
the internet and whatnot in our modern

1286
00:47:55,550 --> 00:47:53,250
day we have a much larger grass for this

1287
00:47:58,790 --> 00:47:55,560
information than people did 15-20 years

1288
00:48:01,040 --> 00:47:58,800
ago but you know when people talk about

1289
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:01,050
Oh Scientology's into aliens that's the

1290
00:48:04,100 --> 00:48:02,490
thing they don't get into that to live

1291
00:48:05,540 --> 00:48:04,110
very upper echelon levels and when you

1292
00:48:07,970 --> 00:48:05,550
start getting up into those levels

1293
00:48:11,330 --> 00:48:07,980
that's when they start to talk about you

1294
00:48:14,510 --> 00:48:11,340
be able to become once your fate ins are

1295
00:48:17,900 --> 00:48:14,520
at full operating procedure I suppose

1296
00:48:20,330 --> 00:48:17,910
you're basically have the ability to be

1297
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:20,340
able to manipulate what they call messed

1298
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:24,210
in EST matter energy space and time and

1299
00:48:33,230 --> 00:48:29,370
any high-level ot is given the

1300
00:48:36,230 --> 00:48:33,240
information that essentially reads like

1301
00:48:37,820 --> 00:48:36,240
the Sumerian story you know we were we

1302
00:48:40,490 --> 00:48:37,830
were seeded by these extraterrestrials

1303
00:48:42,290 --> 00:48:40,500
we have this power Bubba blob is that in

1304
00:48:45,370 --> 00:48:42,300
the other but that doesn't like it that

1305
00:48:47,300 --> 00:48:45,380
the only really a small percentage of

1306
00:48:49,550 --> 00:48:47,310
Scientology's ever get to the

1307
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:49,560
information about the extraterrestrials

1308
00:48:55,070 --> 00:48:51,890
in the alien so when you look at how

1309
00:48:58,880 --> 00:48:55,080
through the years the aliens have been

1310
00:49:01,610 --> 00:48:58,890
depicted as as hostile and coming to

1311
00:49:05,540 --> 00:49:01,620
earth do to wipe us all out and kill us

1312
00:49:07,970 --> 00:49:05,550
and then Scientology says well no these

1313
00:49:10,190 --> 00:49:07,980
other extraterrestrials came a long time

1314
00:49:13,490 --> 00:49:10,200
ago and trap these other ones here and

1315
00:49:15,290 --> 00:49:13,500
they died and now their souls are in US

1316
00:49:16,850 --> 00:49:15,300
and that's what causes our misery and

1317
00:49:18,590 --> 00:49:16,860
this and the rest of it and it kind of

1318
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:18,600
doesn't make sense because on the one

1319
00:49:22,430 --> 00:49:20,490
end they tell you well it's these dead

1320
00:49:25,660 --> 00:49:22,440
alien souls that caused all our misery

1321
00:49:28,580 --> 00:49:25,670
and then they later tell you well but by

1322
00:49:30,470 --> 00:49:28,590
activating them and making them active

1323
00:49:32,720 --> 00:49:30,480
in you that's how we make you better

1324
00:49:34,490 --> 00:49:32,730
wait a second here something about that

1325
00:49:37,340 --> 00:49:34,500
just doesn't sound right but it really

1326
00:49:39,350 --> 00:49:37,350
was fascinating for you to see how the

1327
00:49:41,180 --> 00:49:39,360
disinformation and how the scare

1328
00:49:43,130 --> 00:49:41,190
mongering towards extraterrestrials

1329
00:49:43,490 --> 00:49:43,140
specifically when you look at the fact

1330
00:49:46,490 --> 00:49:43,500
that

1331
00:49:49,550 --> 00:49:46,500
in 1947 was really when what kicked off

1332
00:49:52,190 --> 00:49:49,560
UFO hysteria in this country and really

1333
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:52,200
kicked off the whole mass UFO sightings

1334
00:49:58,250 --> 00:49:54,930
in how that directly correlates with the

1335
00:50:00,470 --> 00:49:58,260
same year with Roswell with MKULTRA with

1336
00:50:02,630 --> 00:50:00,480
Ellen Hubbard first starting to write

1337
00:50:04,130 --> 00:50:02,640
the Scientology stuff all that's

1338
00:50:05,839 --> 00:50:04,140
happening in the same year was not a

1339
00:50:09,170 --> 00:50:05,849
coincidence and this really has become

1340
00:50:11,180 --> 00:50:09,180
what I believe the way for them to give

1341
00:50:13,490 --> 00:50:11,190
us one narrative that we've all taken

1342
00:50:16,010 --> 00:50:13,500
because for years you know this for

1343
00:50:17,720 --> 00:50:16,020
years they told us that UFOs aren't real

1344
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:17,730
aliens aren't real if you believe it all

1345
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:19,410
you're a kook and you're a nut and and

1346
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:22,530
now over the past decade that shifted

1347
00:50:25,970 --> 00:50:24,450
around and now they're going out of

1348
00:50:27,020 --> 00:50:25,980
their way through TV and moving the rest

1349
00:50:29,300 --> 00:50:27,030
to try and convince us that

1350
00:50:31,099 --> 00:50:29,310
extraterrestrials are real yeah so

1351
00:50:33,109 --> 00:50:31,109
that's one of the fascinating things is

1352
00:50:35,630 --> 00:50:33,119
that you could see that for whatever

1353
00:50:37,220 --> 00:50:35,640
reason why did that shift why did they

1354
00:50:38,510 --> 00:50:37,230
spend those many many years trying to

1355
00:50:40,099 --> 00:50:38,520
convince us it wasn't real and now

1356
00:50:41,630 --> 00:50:40,109
they're all about trying to get people

1357
00:50:43,670 --> 00:50:41,640
through shows like ancient aliens and

1358
00:50:45,890 --> 00:50:43,680
what not to believe these things real

1359
00:50:48,740 --> 00:50:45,900
it's because they want to have a

1360
00:50:52,430 --> 00:50:48,750
controlled rollout of this that will

1361
00:50:54,950 --> 00:50:52,440
then help solidify the agenda for global

1362
00:50:56,359 --> 00:50:54,960
control right and just like you

1363
00:50:58,430 --> 00:50:56,369
mentioned ancient aliens right there and

1364
00:51:02,210 --> 00:50:58,440
Stitch in a little earlier this to me

1365
00:51:05,870 --> 00:51:02,220
was a real revelation because it

1366
00:51:08,240 --> 00:51:05,880
explains why a major Network History

1367
00:51:10,550 --> 00:51:08,250
Channel owned by the same people who are

1368
00:51:11,839 --> 00:51:10,560
you know manipulating culture and don't

1369
00:51:15,380 --> 00:51:11,849
have our best interests at heart

1370
00:51:17,780 --> 00:51:15,390
it explains why they would push a show

1371
00:51:19,819 --> 00:51:17,790
like ancient aliens so hard because

1372
00:51:21,559 --> 00:51:19,829
clearly there is an agenda behind it and

1373
00:51:24,170 --> 00:51:21,569
it seems like you're really nailing it

1374
00:51:28,220 --> 00:51:24,180
yeah it really is all about being able

1375
00:51:31,450 --> 00:51:28,230
to have the people believe that the

1376
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:31,460
story I mean it really is mind-blowing

1377
00:51:34,670 --> 00:51:32,970
especially with the stuff of the

1378
00:51:36,950 --> 00:51:34,680
spellcasters I mean I couldn't even

1379
00:51:39,020 --> 00:51:36,960
really put it into words when I first

1380
00:51:42,470 --> 00:51:39,030
started realizing that okay I get this

1381
00:51:45,109 --> 00:51:42,480
now the knowledge that the powers that

1382
00:51:47,630 --> 00:51:45,119
be have about extraterrestrials has been

1383
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:47,640
what they've been trying to keep from us

1384
00:51:52,819 --> 00:51:49,170
from all this time now apparently

1385
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:52,829
whatever Scientology knows about

1386
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:55,050
extraterrestrials ties into that

1387
00:51:58,950 --> 00:51:57,290
directly and I think we really start

1388
00:52:02,020 --> 00:51:58,960
to see why from the very beginning

1389
00:52:04,450 --> 00:52:02,030
because Elrond really his work and all

1390
00:52:06,910 --> 00:52:04,460
this stuff started out strictly as his

1391
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:06,920
work for the government in the creation

1392
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:08,690
of these mind-control things now once he

1393
00:52:12,100 --> 00:52:10,490
had this knowledge and acquired this

1394
00:52:13,900 --> 00:52:12,110
knowledge that's when he started saying

1395
00:52:17,820 --> 00:52:13,910
wait a second here and that's why

1396
00:52:21,340 --> 00:52:17,830
MKULTRA and the levels of the Crowley

1397
00:52:23,350 --> 00:52:21,350
OTO stuff and Scientology mesh all

1398
00:52:24,700 --> 00:52:23,360
together because he would say well I

1399
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:24,710
mean of course they're going to use it

1400
00:52:28,030 --> 00:52:26,690
for this usage but I can use it for my

1401
00:52:30,610 --> 00:52:28,040
own usage and that's when I started

1402
00:52:33,940 --> 00:52:30,620
seeing that whatever these two entities

1403
00:52:38,050 --> 00:52:33,950
know about extraterrestrials they have a

1404
00:52:40,720 --> 00:52:38,060
mutual beneficial interest in keeping

1405
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:40,730
the status quo of this information going

1406
00:52:45,370 --> 00:52:42,890
as far as what it entails and when you

1407
00:52:46,810 --> 00:52:45,380
look at how Scientology views themselves

1408
00:52:49,300 --> 00:52:46,820
I mean they make people sign

1409
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:49,310
billion-year contracts where like you're

1410
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:51,410
we're literally that means that you are

1411
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:53,810
tied to them through successive

1412
00:52:57,970 --> 00:52:56,330
incarnations so right there beyond a

1413
00:53:00,040 --> 00:52:57,980
shadow of a doubt you can see that they

1414
00:53:01,450 --> 00:53:00,050
believe in you know like the

1415
00:53:04,500 --> 00:53:01,460
transmigration of souls and

1416
00:53:07,830 --> 00:53:04,510
reincarnation they believe that

1417
00:53:11,260 --> 00:53:07,840
Scientologists are doing work that is

1418
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:11,270
beneficial and necessary not just for

1419
00:53:15,250 --> 00:53:13,490
earth but for the entire universe they

1420
00:53:17,980 --> 00:53:15,260
believe themselves to be these

1421
00:53:21,130 --> 00:53:17,990
constantly reincarnating individuals and

1422
00:53:24,460 --> 00:53:21,140
that anybody who is against them or

1423
00:53:28,270 --> 00:53:24,470
tries to stop them should be dealt with

1424
00:53:29,890 --> 00:53:28,280
and any mechanisms or usages that can be

1425
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:29,900
used against them should be used against

1426
00:53:33,580 --> 00:53:30,890
them there's a very interesting

1427
00:53:34,690 --> 00:53:33,590
interview with it's a famous you can go

1428
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:34,700
find on YouTube one of the famous

1429
00:53:41,230 --> 00:53:37,970
interviews with Tom Cruise and it's like

1430
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:41,240
an internal Scientology interview and in

1431
00:53:47,470 --> 00:53:43,930
this interview he says it's all about

1432
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:47,480
KSW man KSW told that KSW and you're

1433
00:53:51,670 --> 00:53:49,130
like okay SW no what does that mean he

1434
00:53:54,550 --> 00:53:51,680
says keep Scientology working that's

1435
00:53:56,500 --> 00:53:54,560
what the term means KSW means keep

1436
00:53:59,260 --> 00:53:56,510
Scientology work now one of the things

1437
00:54:01,030 --> 00:53:59,270
Crowley talked about is that he talks

1438
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:01,040
specifically about language in the use

1439
00:54:06,130 --> 00:54:03,290
of language to have multiple meanings

1440
00:54:09,850 --> 00:54:06,140
and how you would say a phrase into the

1441
00:54:11,240 --> 00:54:09,860
profane it might mean one thing but to

1442
00:54:12,410 --> 00:54:11,250
the magical initiate

1443
00:54:15,230 --> 00:54:12,420
means completely something different

1444
00:54:17,690 --> 00:54:15,240
that's what the KSW keep Scientology

1445
00:54:20,390 --> 00:54:17,700
working he isn't just meaning keep it

1446
00:54:22,940 --> 00:54:20,400
going and keep it active by saying keep

1447
00:54:26,090 --> 00:54:22,950
Scientology working he is referring

1448
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:26,100
working is a magical term that he's used

1449
00:54:29,420 --> 00:54:27,690
for magic and practice just like we

1450
00:54:32,810 --> 00:54:29,430
mentioned with l ron Hubbard and Jack

1451
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:32,820
Parsons doing the Babylon working ritual

1452
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:36,450
by Tom Cruise they are saying you know

1453
00:54:41,900 --> 00:54:39,450
we got a KSW keep Scientology working he

1454
00:54:44,510 --> 00:54:41,910
is literally saying we have to keep the

1455
00:54:46,790 --> 00:54:44,520
black magic in practice and we have to

1456
00:54:50,780 --> 00:54:46,800
keep it going and that's why they are

1457
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:50,790
now having these campaigns to sort of

1458
00:54:55,190 --> 00:54:53,490
you know expose David Miscavige because

1459
00:54:58,280 --> 00:54:55,200
they are literally going to bring Tom

1460
00:55:01,220 --> 00:54:58,290
Cruise up as the titular head and hope

1461
00:55:02,900 --> 00:55:01,230
to say well you know Scientology yeah it

1462
00:55:04,910 --> 00:55:02,910
was bad we had bad people running it for

1463
00:55:07,820 --> 00:55:04,920
a while but it's good now and they want

1464
00:55:11,210 --> 00:55:07,830
to merge all these different religious

1465
00:55:13,910 --> 00:55:11,220
beliefs along with the stuff like

1466
00:55:16,010 --> 00:55:13,920
zecharia sitchin and the idea of humans

1467
00:55:17,990 --> 00:55:16,020
being seeded by extraterrestrials this

1468
00:55:19,610 --> 00:55:18,000
is how they want to bring Scientology in

1469
00:55:21,170 --> 00:55:19,620
as the one-world religion they want to

1470
00:55:22,490 --> 00:55:21,180
merge all these things together they

1471
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:22,500
want to show the general public that

1472
00:55:26,690 --> 00:55:24,570
we've been wrong about the ancient past

1473
00:55:29,240 --> 00:55:26,700
we've been wrong about religion and that

1474
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:29,250
Scientology is the only religion that

1475
00:55:33,470 --> 00:55:31,770
reconciles both and it's the reason why

1476
00:55:35,270 --> 00:55:33,480
it makes sense and Tom Cruise is now

1477
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:35,280
just recently in the past few months now

1478
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:38,490
moved into the former headquarters of

1479
00:55:42,950 --> 00:55:40,650
Scientology in England l ron Hubbard's

1480
00:55:46,250 --> 00:55:42,960
former residents is now where Tom Cruise

1481
00:55:48,650 --> 00:55:46,260
lives huh and that's not just in man and

1482
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:48,660
then yeah even if you're not even if you

1483
00:55:52,460 --> 00:55:50,610
don't call yourself a Scientologist

1484
00:55:54,500 --> 00:55:52,470
you're still absorbing a lot of their

1485
00:55:57,950 --> 00:55:54,510
ideas that they're putting into your

1486
00:56:00,710 --> 00:55:57,960
head through their stranglehold on media

1487
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:00,720
and let me take this to a weird place or

1488
00:56:04,850 --> 00:56:03,690
try to maybe connect it to the stuff we

1489
00:56:06,860 --> 00:56:04,860
were talking about earlier with the lost

1490
00:56:09,980 --> 00:56:06,870
secrets of ancient america but when

1491
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:09,990
we're looking at these mounds and stuff

1492
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:12,210
all around the world really often these

1493
00:56:16,550 --> 00:56:14,490
alignments to star systems in particular

1494
00:56:19,430 --> 00:56:16,560
a lot of them are aligned to Orion

1495
00:56:21,740 --> 00:56:19,440
and just as Scientology seems to be

1496
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:21,750
obsessed with manifesting spirits and

1497
00:56:24,829 --> 00:56:23,850
opening doorways here on the physical

1498
00:56:27,109 --> 00:56:24,839
plane or within

1499
00:56:29,209 --> 00:56:27,119
physical bodies you can almost make the

1500
00:56:30,950 --> 00:56:29,219
case that these ancient cultures were

1501
00:56:33,229 --> 00:56:30,960
going the other way and somehow trying

1502
00:56:35,029 --> 00:56:33,239
to transport themselves through some

1503
00:56:37,459 --> 00:56:35,039
type of gateway or portal up into the

1504
00:56:39,229 --> 00:56:37,469
stars whether consciousness or in a

1505
00:56:40,999 --> 00:56:39,239
physical way do you see any parallels

1506
00:56:42,890 --> 00:56:41,009
here do you see any indications that

1507
00:56:44,959 --> 00:56:42,900
they might have been successful in doing

1508
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:44,969
something like that or that there might

1509
00:56:49,519 --> 00:56:46,410
be an underlying theme that connects

1510
00:56:51,410 --> 00:56:49,529
these two subjects well it is

1511
00:56:53,599 --> 00:56:51,420
interesting and I'm not really for sure

1512
00:56:56,749 --> 00:56:53,609
I don't know if I'm if I've come to the

1513
00:56:58,130 --> 00:56:56,759
point yet where I could effectively put

1514
00:56:59,660 --> 00:56:58,140
a connection between those two subjects

1515
00:57:00,979 --> 00:56:59,670
but I will say this in a lot of the

1516
00:57:02,779 --> 00:57:00,989
ancient science that I visited across

1517
00:57:04,549 --> 00:57:02,789
the United States specifically a place

1518
00:57:06,739 --> 00:57:04,559
like Moundville in Alabama one of the

1519
00:57:09,319 --> 00:57:06,749
things that was fascinating to find is

1520
00:57:12,739 --> 00:57:09,329
how a lot of these sites are built to

1521
00:57:14,450 --> 00:57:12,749
mirror what is talked about in the

1522
00:57:16,549 --> 00:57:14,460
ancient Tibetan Book of the Dead and the

1523
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:16,559
Egyptian Book of the Dead and that is

1524
00:57:22,180 --> 00:57:18,930
this process and also in the Emerald

1525
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:22,190
Tablet of Toth is the process of

1526
00:57:31,890 --> 00:57:28,210
essentially the being able to incarnate

1527
00:57:34,559 --> 00:57:31,900
in various existences and forms

1528
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:34,569
essentially at will now this is what you

1529
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:36,490
find in the heart of Freemasonry as well

1530
00:57:43,620 --> 00:57:38,890
and also the Rosicrucians is this idea

1531
00:57:45,690 --> 00:57:43,630
of the ability to transcend the death of

1532
00:57:48,780 --> 00:57:45,700
the physical body and incarnate in

1533
00:57:52,799 --> 00:57:48,790
another physical body at will now this

1534
00:57:54,660 --> 00:57:52,809
knowledge is encoded into a lot of the

1535
00:57:56,609 --> 00:57:54,670
ancient sites like Moundville in Alabama

1536
00:57:58,500 --> 00:57:56,619
and it shows that the people who built

1537
00:58:00,809 --> 00:57:58,510
these things would have had to have

1538
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:00,819
knowledge that went back to the ancient

1539
00:58:04,799 --> 00:58:02,770
Babylonians the ancient Sumerians as

1540
00:58:07,319 --> 00:58:04,809
well as the alignments to the Deneb

1541
00:58:10,140 --> 00:58:07,329
portal and yes opposing these different

1542
00:58:11,819 --> 00:58:10,150
alignments to these different sites when

1543
00:58:13,620 --> 00:58:11,829
you are at the sites that when these

1544
00:58:16,710 --> 00:58:13,630
alignments happen supposedly that's when

1545
00:58:19,049 --> 00:58:16,720
the conditions are right for these

1546
00:58:22,380 --> 00:58:19,059
portals to open where entities can

1547
00:58:24,210 --> 00:58:22,390
travel back and forth from the locations

1548
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:24,220
say the Deneb portal of Deneb star

1549
00:58:29,970 --> 00:58:26,290
system to earth when these alignments

1550
00:58:32,789 --> 00:58:29,980
happen now as you mentioned the idea of

1551
00:58:34,589 --> 00:58:32,799
well if specifically at malval alabama

1552
00:58:35,789 --> 00:58:34,599
they had something like five thousand

1553
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:35,799
something people building this ancient

1554
00:58:40,670 --> 00:58:37,690
site for you-know-who however many years

1555
00:58:44,130 --> 00:58:40,680
and then all the people who built it

1556
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:44,140
disappear disappeared off the face of

1557
00:58:49,079 --> 00:58:45,970
the planet no remains were ever found

1558
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:49,089
nothing these people have and they were

1559
00:58:52,289 --> 00:58:50,290
just they were quoted by the people of

1560
00:58:56,579 --> 00:58:52,299
time as just having disappeared so it

1561
00:58:58,710 --> 00:58:56,589
makes you wonder did they go through one

1562
00:59:00,480 --> 00:58:58,720
of these portals or what not and you

1563
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:00,490
mentioned something of bringing stuff in

1564
00:59:03,599 --> 00:59:02,290
and stuff going back out well I think

1565
00:59:05,940 --> 00:59:03,609
we're almost talking about two different

1566
00:59:08,190 --> 00:59:05,950
things one I think is the ability to be

1567
00:59:09,990 --> 00:59:08,200
able to transcend the death of the

1568
00:59:12,930 --> 00:59:10,000
physical body in incarnate in another

1569
00:59:14,730 --> 00:59:12,940
material body at will but what's

1570
00:59:17,299 --> 00:59:14,740
different about that from Scientology is

1571
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:17,309
that Scientology is not talking about

1572
00:59:23,849 --> 00:59:21,130
doing this through multiple incarnations

1573
00:59:26,190 --> 00:59:23,859
it's strictly about the current

1574
00:59:29,370 --> 00:59:26,200
incarnation being controlled by

1575
00:59:30,809 --> 00:59:29,380
something outside of itself now could

1576
00:59:33,089 --> 00:59:30,819
that mean that at some point these

1577
00:59:34,589 --> 00:59:33,099
things to two things could reconcile and

1578
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:34,599
they could have something to do with

1579
00:59:38,460 --> 00:59:37,210
each other absolutely but I don't know

1580
00:59:39,870 --> 00:59:38,470
that we've gotten to the point yet where

1581
00:59:42,089 --> 00:59:39,880
we can say that's absolutely the case

1582
00:59:43,259 --> 00:59:42,099
but is a fascinating connection Greg

1583
00:59:45,870 --> 00:59:43,269
never really thought about it like that

1584
00:59:48,299 --> 00:59:45,880
well it's just funny because in our

1585
00:59:50,849 --> 00:59:48,309
typical mainstream culture nobody's

1586
00:59:52,650 --> 00:59:50,859
talking about portals or what seems like

1587
00:59:55,950 --> 00:59:52,660
almost teleportation on an intergalactic

1588
00:59:58,380 --> 00:59:55,960
scale but the ancients seemed to be at

1589
01:00:00,390 --> 00:59:58,390
least have these kind of belief systems

1590
01:00:01,829 --> 01:00:00,400
and then covertly we're hearing things

1591
01:00:04,349 --> 01:00:01,839
like in our modern times where these

1592
01:00:07,349 --> 01:00:04,359
secret groups and black magic groups are

1593
01:00:09,239 --> 01:00:07,359
also kind of working in that same

1594
01:00:11,219 --> 01:00:09,249
wheelhouse even if their agendas and

1595
01:00:13,140 --> 01:00:11,229
motivations are different you know it

1596
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:13,150
even comes up with some researchers

1597
01:00:16,259 --> 01:00:14,650
talking about deep level science

1598
01:00:18,660 --> 01:00:16,269
projects like CERN and the Large Hadron

1599
01:00:20,549 --> 01:00:18,670
Collider you know the idea that they're

1600
01:00:23,460 --> 01:00:20,559
trying to open up some type of portal

1601
01:00:25,410 --> 01:00:23,470
that has more nefarious agendas behind

1602
01:00:27,479 --> 01:00:25,420
it than just colliding some particles

1603
01:00:29,789 --> 01:00:27,489
and they have these ritual workings in

1604
01:00:31,799 --> 01:00:29,799
front of their facility with the whole

1605
01:00:33,630 --> 01:00:31,809
Shiva statue and the weird things you

1606
01:00:36,299 --> 01:00:33,640
can see there so there's definitely

1607
01:00:39,299 --> 01:00:36,309
strange elements to secret government

1608
01:00:42,870 --> 01:00:39,309
projects to religions that are Trojan

1609
01:00:44,190 --> 01:00:42,880
horses for demon possession and you know

1610
01:00:45,839 --> 01:00:44,200
I don't think the ancient stuff is

1611
01:00:48,209 --> 01:00:45,849
nearly as nefarious as what we're

1612
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:48,219
experiencing now but it is involving the

1613
01:00:52,499 --> 01:00:50,170
same type of stuff it's just kind of

1614
01:00:54,359 --> 01:00:52,509
strange well I think what it is is that

1615
01:00:55,529 --> 01:00:54,369
people will see this in the spellcasters

1616
01:00:57,329 --> 01:00:55,539
that's kind of where the stuff where I

1617
01:00:58,829 --> 01:00:57,339
was connecting the Scientology and CIA

1618
01:01:00,509 --> 01:00:58,839
stuff to the truth movement and

1619
01:01:02,489 --> 01:01:00,519
disinformation agents that's kind of

1620
01:01:04,410 --> 01:01:02,499
where that comes into play because I

1621
01:01:05,940 --> 01:01:04,420
think that a lot of this stuff as you're

1622
01:01:08,279 --> 01:01:05,950
talking about that people have gotten on

1623
01:01:11,839 --> 01:01:08,289
to is really indeed what they're trying

1624
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:11,849
to cover up yeah and why you see certain

1625
01:01:17,009 --> 01:01:14,890
figureheads and certain people who won't

1626
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:17,019
talk about those subjects at all and

1627
01:01:22,049 --> 01:01:19,450
never bring them up because that does

1628
01:01:23,279 --> 01:01:22,059
get into that and I'm working on I hope

1629
01:01:25,229 --> 01:01:23,289
to have it if we can get all the funding

1630
01:01:26,579 --> 01:01:25,239
that we need to get it done by next year

1631
01:01:27,839 --> 01:01:26,589
that's one of things I'm going to

1632
01:01:29,849 --> 01:01:27,849
discuss in law secrets of ancient

1633
01:01:33,779 --> 01:01:29,859
America vol 3 is because I've actually

1634
01:01:36,359 --> 01:01:33,789
gone out and documented stargates and

1635
01:01:38,370 --> 01:01:36,369
locations of stargates across the United

1636
01:01:40,109 --> 01:01:38,380
States and I'm going to be revealing I

1637
01:01:42,479 --> 01:01:40,119
don't want to give it away here now but

1638
01:01:44,940 --> 01:01:42,489
I will be revealing in that film the

1639
01:01:47,819 --> 01:01:44,950
evidence that we found for one of these

1640
01:01:49,950 --> 01:01:47,829
massive stargates being here in the

1641
01:01:51,870 --> 01:01:49,960
United States and a massive structure

1642
01:01:54,150 --> 01:01:51,880
being built on top of it to cover up

1643
01:01:55,710 --> 01:01:54,160
they've hinted about it in in Hollywood

1644
01:01:57,330 --> 01:01:55,720
movies as well and

1645
01:01:59,760 --> 01:01:57,340
is all sorts of iconography and things

1646
01:02:03,420 --> 01:01:59,770
that surround this and it appears to me

1647
01:02:05,780 --> 01:02:03,430
that yes there is one of these ancient

1648
01:02:08,359 --> 01:02:05,790
portals here in the United States and

1649
01:02:10,650 --> 01:02:08,369
again a lot of this stuff has been

1650
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:10,660
disinformation and whatnot has been put

1651
01:02:16,830 --> 01:02:12,970
out to cover these things up because

1652
01:02:18,750 --> 01:02:16,840
they at some point are planning on using

1653
01:02:20,550 --> 01:02:18,760
these things now whether that's as some

1654
01:02:21,810 --> 01:02:20,560
people speculate some people think well

1655
01:02:22,980 --> 01:02:21,820
they want to open up these ancient

1656
01:02:24,839 --> 01:02:22,990
portal because they want to bring the

1657
01:02:26,430 --> 01:02:24,849
Anunnaki back through to come and rule

1658
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:26,440
over you know all those things are

1659
01:02:30,210 --> 01:02:28,570
speculative at this point but again when

1660
01:02:32,820 --> 01:02:30,220
you look at what they're trying to get

1661
01:02:35,130 --> 01:02:32,830
us to believe versus what they are

1662
01:02:37,650 --> 01:02:35,140
trying to downplay and the things they

1663
01:02:39,930 --> 01:02:37,660
try to tell say are kooky and crazy and

1664
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:39,940
probably not real and then over here

1665
01:02:43,109 --> 01:02:41,650
while you're saying that's cooking crazy

1666
01:02:44,550 --> 01:02:43,119
but yet you're trying to get me to

1667
01:02:46,050 --> 01:02:44,560
believe little green man or cup of this

1668
01:02:48,599 --> 01:02:46,060
come to stick things up a but while I'm

1669
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:48,609
asleep you know I mean those are the

1670
01:02:51,810 --> 01:02:50,410
things where you start to see wait a

1671
01:02:53,460 --> 01:02:51,820
minute they're trying to get me to

1672
01:02:55,500 --> 01:02:53,470
believe to not believe things that are

1673
01:02:56,609 --> 01:02:55,510
plausible and then the implausible thing

1674
01:02:58,290 --> 01:02:56,619
to the things are being shoved down our

1675
01:03:00,000 --> 01:02:58,300
throat from shows like ancient aliens on

1676
01:03:01,079 --> 01:03:00,010
the rest of it so I think people

1677
01:03:03,329 --> 01:03:01,089
eventually are going to figure this

1678
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:03,339
stuff out and you know this stuff is not

1679
01:03:07,260 --> 01:03:05,290
going to have as much of an effect on

1680
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:07,270
people as it's had up until the present

1681
01:03:11,339 --> 01:03:08,890
time mm-hmm

1682
01:03:13,740 --> 01:03:11,349
well then that pretty much does it

1683
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:13,750
fascinating stuff and we definitely left

1684
01:03:18,030 --> 01:03:15,730
a lot on the table for people to

1685
01:03:20,910 --> 01:03:18,040
discover when they see the spellcasters

1686
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:20,920
films and other ones before we go please

1687
01:03:24,900 --> 01:03:22,690
remind people where they can watch your

1688
01:03:25,890 --> 01:03:24,910
films and support that independent work

1689
01:03:27,780 --> 01:03:25,900
that you're doing so well

1690
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:27,790
absolutely Greg thank you so much I

1691
01:03:30,270 --> 01:03:29,050
appreciate the opportunity to come on

1692
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:30,280
with your day man well definitely want

1693
01:03:33,660 --> 01:03:31,570
to do another show with you in the

1694
01:03:34,890 --> 01:03:33,670
future in or please let me know you know

1695
01:03:36,810 --> 01:03:34,900
if there's other films of mine that you

1696
01:03:38,010 --> 01:03:36,820
haven't seen and or whatever you want me

1697
01:03:40,349 --> 01:03:38,020
to send you some stuff over I have no

1698
01:03:42,450 --> 01:03:40,359
problem doing that and people can go

1699
01:03:44,310 --> 01:03:42,460
there to my website we've got a download

1700
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:44,320
shop there's lots of audiobooks in there

1701
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:45,490
that I've done that people can download

1702
01:03:49,770 --> 01:03:47,890
all my films are there we've got DVDs

1703
01:03:52,829 --> 01:03:49,780
and blu-rays and stuff for sale but also

1704
01:03:54,359 --> 01:03:52,839
as you mentioned my work is 100% when we

1705
01:03:57,089 --> 01:03:54,369
get no outside funding we don't get

1706
01:03:59,160 --> 01:03:57,099
foxnews checks neither does greg so you

1707
01:04:00,690 --> 01:03:59,170
know all our films are all funded by you

1708
01:04:02,099 --> 01:04:00,700
the listeners and people out there I

1709
01:04:03,450 --> 01:04:02,109
mean right now we're only we're trying

1710
01:04:05,579 --> 01:04:03,460
to raise 80 hundred dollars just so we

1711
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:05,589
can get out spellcasters vol.2 before

1712
01:04:09,690 --> 01:04:07,570
the end of the year and not very many

1713
01:04:11,730 --> 01:04:09,700
people can make a documentary on such a

1714
01:04:13,049 --> 01:04:11,740
budget and that's because I do all the

1715
01:04:15,150 --> 01:04:13,059
elements of this from the researching

1716
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:15,160
the writing even to the composing of the

1717
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:17,650
music the editing and everything so um

1718
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:19,210
yeah you know just going and getting

1719
01:04:22,859 --> 01:04:21,250
some downloads and you know making a

1720
01:04:24,630 --> 01:04:22,869
donation to our work in our film so we

1721
01:04:26,490 --> 01:04:24,640
can continue would be a big help from

1722
01:04:27,630 --> 01:04:26,500
people out there so thanks again Greg I

1723
01:04:30,030 --> 01:04:27,640
really appreciate you having me on today

1724
01:04:31,740 --> 01:04:30,040
you got it and thank you man we will

1725
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:31,750
have to do it again but until then just

1726
01:04:36,660 --> 01:04:32,970
keep doing what you do

1727
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:36,670
absolutely all right take care Wow now

1728
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:39,250
that is a solid round of conspiracy

1729
01:04:43,650 --> 01:04:41,890
goodness big thanks to Josh Reeves he

1730
01:04:46,170 --> 01:04:43,660
really knows his stuff Scientology of

1731
01:04:48,839 --> 01:04:46,180
course pops up here and there but it's

1732
01:04:51,539 --> 01:04:48,849
never really been the focus of a th see

1733
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:51,549
a large Lea because I find it silly but

1734
01:04:56,579 --> 01:04:53,650
maybe I was naive clearly it seems that

1735
01:04:58,829 --> 01:04:56,589
I was the Plus show here does get pretty

1736
01:05:00,359 --> 01:04:58,839
wild and honestly this isn't something

1737
01:05:02,370 --> 01:05:00,369
that I really thought about when

1738
01:05:05,190 --> 01:05:02,380
starting THC plus but even the

1739
01:05:07,710 --> 01:05:05,200
five-dollar pay wall is good sometimes

1740
01:05:09,660 --> 01:05:07,720
if you want to talk about something to

1741
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:09,670
more of a closed group rather than it

1742
01:05:15,150 --> 01:05:12,010
just being out there for anyone to grab

1743
01:05:17,190 --> 01:05:15,160
and share around and start trouble with

1744
01:05:18,839 --> 01:05:17,200
if you heard the second hour you

1745
01:05:21,599 --> 01:05:18,849
probably know what I'm talking about

1746
01:05:23,460 --> 01:05:21,609
here but several alternative researchers

1747
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:23,470
and personalities get called out for

1748
01:05:29,700 --> 01:05:25,930
being agents of the scientology machine

1749
01:05:32,460 --> 01:05:29,710
including one guy I kind of like and my

1750
01:05:34,380 --> 01:05:32,470
attitude is look I had Josh here to talk

1751
01:05:37,020 --> 01:05:34,390
about the spellcasters and that is a big

1752
01:05:39,839 --> 01:05:37,030
part of it but each person each listener

1753
01:05:42,569 --> 01:05:39,849
has to decide how big a deal links to

1754
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:42,579
Scientology are for them to do that you

1755
01:05:45,870 --> 01:05:43,930
probably need to know more about the

1756
01:05:48,569 --> 01:05:45,880
organization I think Josh makes a really

1757
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:48,579
great case for this group going very

1758
01:05:53,039 --> 01:05:51,010
deep I mean if those handwriting

1759
01:05:54,900 --> 01:05:53,049
analysis tests are legit and l ron

1760
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:54,910
Hubbard actually wrote letters the

1761
01:05:59,370 --> 01:05:56,650
authorities attributed to Lee Harvey

1762
01:06:02,150 --> 01:05:59,380
Oswald and then one of these agents of

1763
01:06:04,650 --> 01:06:02,160
Scientology writes the book on JFK

1764
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:04,660
conspiracies turning everyone's focus

1765
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:05,410
somewhere else

1766
01:06:11,039 --> 01:06:08,010
well that is worth paying attention to

1767
01:06:13,349 --> 01:06:11,049
but regardless I love the topics of this

1768
01:06:15,270 --> 01:06:13,359
show we spent a good deal talking about

1769
01:06:17,849 --> 01:06:15,280
the rock wall in Rockwall Texas which is

1770
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:17,859
just fascinating and then all the

1771
01:06:22,620 --> 01:06:20,410
content of the spellcasters I mean we've

1772
01:06:24,839 --> 01:06:22,630
talked about l ron Hubbard and his

1773
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:24,849
attempts to create a homunculus

1774
01:06:31,079 --> 01:06:28,450
moonchild with Jack Parsons but to say

1775
01:06:34,589 --> 01:06:31,089
that Scientology is a cult built on

1776
01:06:37,259 --> 01:06:34,599
opening up individuals to demon

1777
01:06:40,470 --> 01:06:37,269
possession I mean that goes deep and

1778
01:06:42,690 --> 01:06:40,480
that is interesting right I loved it and

1779
01:06:45,029 --> 01:06:42,700
the second hour is even juicier please

1780
01:06:47,519 --> 01:06:45,039
sign up for THC plus so I can afford

1781
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:47,529
more bars on my windows bigger locks on

1782
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:49,450
my doors and more drugs to deal with

1783
01:06:52,799 --> 01:06:51,130
this rockefeller rothschild prison

1784
01:06:55,470 --> 01:06:52,809
planet as best I can

1785
01:06:57,829 --> 01:06:55,480
know I'm like 40 percent joking on that

1786
01:07:00,180 --> 01:06:57,839
but do remember if you go to the new

1787
01:07:03,210 --> 01:07:00,190
redesigned website at the higher side

1788
01:07:06,059 --> 01:07:03,220
chats calm you can sign up for a free

1789
01:07:08,249 --> 01:07:06,069
week of THC plus just like you would

1790
01:07:09,839 --> 01:07:08,259
with Netflix or Hulu or any other

1791
01:07:12,150 --> 01:07:09,849
subscription service that lets you do

1792
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:12,160
this kind of thing and you can try it on

1793
01:07:17,009 --> 01:07:14,890
wear it around for a while make sure

1794
01:07:19,019 --> 01:07:17,019
that you can still conveniently listen

1795
01:07:20,430 --> 01:07:19,029
to the plus shows and if you had any

1796
01:07:22,829 --> 01:07:20,440
concerns about how it was all going to

1797
01:07:25,230 --> 01:07:22,839
work logistically you can test that out

1798
01:07:26,749 --> 01:07:25,240
and I hope you will and I've done my

1799
01:07:29,130 --> 01:07:26,759
part your moves spell-casting

1800
01:08:19,879 --> 01:07:29,140
Scientology sorcerer's and human husk

1801
01:08:19,889 --> 01:10:00,260
I can't

1802
01:10:00,270 --> 01:10:23,630
Oh